Thread: Oil colour after service?

Originally Posted by BigJon

I know of a D4 with a failed engine under warranty that had oil sent for testing.

I'm sure it may well happen, would be interesting to know why they did that, but did u see the results of the test? Silicate (sand/dust) content is a big one they look for...

Regards
Daz

Originally Posted by DazzaTD5

Yes it is
HPR DIESEL 5 5W-40 (Semi Syn.)

Ford M2C153-H/171-C/913-B/913-C
Keep in mind the 913B spec as required is quite an old Ford spec, C and D specs now, but not listed as required on a Defender TDCi.
Here is a list of Ford specs: Ford Oil Specifications - oilspecifications.org

Regards
Daz

Thanks DazzaTD5. I missed that totally when looking a few months back.

anyone know where to get used oil testing kits?

Originally Posted by Eevo

anyone know where to get used oil testing kits?

There's a few companies and the big oil companies have their own labs too, but I've always used ALS.
I don't use their cheapest kit, can't recall what it's named ATM as I want a few extra things done, but I think it's E-Monitor ?
It's probably the easiest way to go.

Originally Posted by DazzaTD5

Another note is the gearbox oil used in the Getrag MT82 box, again meeting the Ford spec, the Castrol factory fill isnt available as a retail or trade product (there is similar) unless you buy the 1lt bottles through a Land Rover dealer parts dept, the service dept isnt going to buy the 1lt bottles, they will use similar.

Regards
Daz

The Castrol BOT328 is available retail in 1 lt bottles, I got mine from Rovacraft, Ritters also sell it. I did approach a dealer, but they put a pretty hefty mark up on it. Rovacraft sell it at $63.24 per ltr bottle, well that was the price March 2015.

Originally Posted by DazzaTD5

Yes..... how could anyone believe otherwise? Do you or anyone else honestly believe that Land Rover engineers (or rather the Corporation that controls "their" engineers) and oil manufacturers (good grielf, an honest oil company????) are somehow working to get the longest service life out of your Land Rover Defender??? Long service intervals, fluids for life, using thin 0 - 20 grade oils (for improved fuel consumption), coolants for life or 10 yearly, is to the benefit of the manufacturer (that large Corporation) as it meets better environmental standards due to less waste being produced for that model. EGR blanking or delete.... why not follow the engineers and leave it all on there, surely they wouldnt have engineered something that would shorten the life of an engine? To believe that somehow any large major Corporation has some warm fuzzy feeling towards the products they produce is an odd (wishful) thought. If such a thing was the case, the Defender would have remained in production, there was only one reason it was stopped.... it wasnt cost effective to continue. Regards Daz

Daz you hit the nail on the head with this one.

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Wow this is very educational for the Nube, great info guys. Thank you.

However can we get it broken down in point form as to why Penrite HPR Diesel 5 5W-40 Semi Synthetic is preferred over the 5W-40 Full Synthetic ❓❓❓

Appreciated ✅

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Originally Posted by Babs

Wow this is very educational for the Nube, great info guys. Thank you.

However can we get it broken down in point form as to why Penrite HPR Diesel 5 5W-40 Semi Synthetic is preferred over the 5W-40 Full Synthetic ❓❓❓

Appreciated ✅

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Looks like the website is down so I can't access the current TDS.

I might have them on the portable hard drive but they may not be current, I'll have a look later.