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    Thanks Guys for all your replies. Would anyone recommend adding double-cardan shaft or higher quiality sway bars etc? I don't want to be going over hte top, but I would like a long term quality suspension set up as I will use it 100% for work and touring.

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    The angle that the Puma engine/trans/transfer case is installed at means the front propshaft is at about the limits of it's operating angle, so from what I understand from others on here who have lifted a Puma is that the double cardan shaft is a necessity.
    Dunno about the anti-roll bars, I would have thought the originals would be perfectly OK.
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    Thanks for your advice Dan, very helpful

    So an update. As I am new to landys I was open to hearing what the 'experts' had to tell me about a suspension upgrade.

    After sending the same email to four reputable an recommended installers in melbourne stating I was after a supply and install quote on a 2'' lift with koni raids and a quality spring. I required this for heavy duty work and play. I also added that it was suggested I add a front tailshaft/Double cardan joint and I was open to feedback on anything additional I may require as I was planning on keeping this car for a long time I did not want to sacrifice in ride quality or longevity of the product.

    These were the results.

    Dealer 1. Sent email. no response. dropped into the shop and was met with 'We will install whatever you want'. no advice and just told to send an email to them and we will reply with a quote as they dont do it in the shop?

    Dealer 2. no response after two emails.

    Dealer 3. recommends not doing a 2'' lift as the ride will be so bad I will want to remove the lift and there is not another way of improving the ride on the 2''. recommended a 1'' lift after I asked what my other options were. Dealer did seem very busy.

    Dealer 4. Very helpful over many emails identified an ideal set up and can do a 2'' lift with what I required and with the addition of double cardan shaft, transfer case flange and front castor correction arm and bushes the ride will be better than factory.

    Disappointing but it seems I have reached the outcome I was after. Does this setup sound what I was after?






    Quote Originally Posted by DieselDan View Post
    The angle that the Puma engine/trans/transfer case is installed at means the front propshaft is at about the limits of it's operating angle, so from what I understand from others on here who have lifted a Puma is that the double cardan shaft is a necessity.
    Dunno about the anti-roll bars, I would have thought the originals would be perfectly OK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corris110 View Post

    These were the results.

    Dealer 4. Very helpful over many emails identified an ideal set up and can do a 2'' lift with what I required and with the addition of double cardan shaft, transfer case flange and front castor correction arm and bushes the ride will be better than factory.

    Disappointing but it seems I have reached the outcome I was after. Does this setup sound what I was after?
    Do you mind sharing who the helpful shop/dealer is?

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    I would just put the Koni's straight in. Dont change the geometry. It's perfect as is IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Rey View Post
    Do you mind sharing who the helpful shop/dealer is?
    It was at avm. I welcome anyone else's opinions on lift versus just shocks etc. I realise landys dont really require a lift and i also don't want to sacrifice reliability and ride quality

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    Maybe I should start a poll?
    To lift or not to lift?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corris110 View Post
    It was at avm. I welcome anyone else's opinions on lift versus just shocks etc. I realise landys dont really require a lift and i also don't want to sacrifice reliability and ride quality
    What do you want to do?

    If you want to do some hard core offroading and fording of rivers then it could be worth it. For example Stefan at alloffroad has his 110 lifted because he does stuff like you see in these clips:
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC82...B3yZdoQ/videos

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Rey View Post
    What do you want to do?

    If you want to do some hard core offroading and fording of rivers then it could be worth it. For example Stefan at alloffroad has his 110 lifted because he does stuff like you see in these clips:
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC82...B3yZdoQ/videos
    Would definitely like the capability of doing some heavy 4wding if required. I have a few 70 series mates who have given me heaps and im keen to have the chance to winch one of them out! Haha It will be used 80% work and carrying constant loads, 15% touring and 5% 4wding. Avm have assured me the ride wont be compromised if I lift 2''. So then it would just be other potential issues such as existing vehicle height plus rack plus lift?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corris110 View Post
    Would definitely like the capability of doing some heavy 4wding if required. I have a few 70 series mates who have given me heaps and im keen to have the chance to winch one of them out! Haha It will be used 80% work and carrying constant loads, 15% touring and 5% 4wding. Avm have assured me the ride wont be compromised if I lift 2''. So then it would just be other potential issues such as existing vehicle height plus rack plus lift?
    My 98 Deefer came with 50mm lifted springs. Forgotten how many uni joints I've had to replace. Other than that it's been fine on and off road for years but now that I mainly drive my 14 Puma which is on standard height springs, I realise how much more stable (lower centre of gravity), better braking, less body roll there is. Capability difference is negligible IMO. I wouldn't trade that perfect Defender geometry from factory for 5% time trying to impress your mates. They are just goading you because it's the done thing, believe me it gets worse too the further north you go in this great country! Now I just smile the Defender owners knowing smile. When I get around to it I'll be returning my classic 98 to original springs too.

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