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Thread: Once you go BAS .... You can never go back!

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    Once you go BAS .... You can never go back!

    Well you "can" - but you won't like it!

    Been enjoying a BAS 170hp Autobiography (V2) tune, complete with the required larger intercooler, for about the last 6mths and approx 10,000km.

    Am taking the vehicle to Land Rover Malaysia tomorrow as they (and LR international) agreed to replace my 10AS security module. (Nothing wrong with the current 10AS - just that they can't provide me with the EKA for that one)

    Pete Bell advised it best to refit the original ECU temporarily - as it is not "unlocked" and may be important to get it registered with the new security module by LR.

    Later I can put the unlocked ECU with the BAS tune back on and the RRC tool can handle registering the unlocked ECU to the new 10AS security module.

    Took the vehicle for a test drive just now after putting the original 120hp ECU back into service.

    Oh how I miss the BAS Autobiography tune!!!
    Neil
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    I can only agree with you about V2 of the 170hp tune!
    Its like he's fixed the whole vehicle all over again. I can almost drive 'normally' in 1st and 2nd! The jerking from the sloppy driveline has nearly been overcome.

    I don't really need or choose to use all the power/torque from the tune but it also makes a huge difference to drivability through light and medium throttle.

    Its also good for a laugh when a rice cooker pulls out to overtake on a hill and they start blowing smoke like a, well, rice cooker and nothing happens.

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    I'd be curious to know how the TDCi with this tune stacks up against a V8 LC while towing. Pat

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAT303 View Post
    I'd be curious to know how the TDCi with this tune stacks up against a V8 LC while towing. Pat
    Numbers are not the final word on "real world" experience behind the wheel. But as a start point:

    Toyota info from Toyota AU web page for the 70 Series
    4.5 litre V8 Turbo-diesel engine
    151kW (ed: ~202hp) power
    Powerful 430Nm of torque

    TDCi w/- BAS 170 Autobiography
    2.2 litre inline 4cyl turbo-diesel
    (~127kW) 170hp
    450Nm torque


    T'would seem the V8 has a lot of scope for for a tuner to make it breathe fire!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAT303 View Post
    I'd be curious to know how the TDCi with this tune stacks up against a V8 LC while towing. Pat
    I think it would still feel a lot easier with the V8. Even though the d4d is no engineering masterpiece, the cubes are always going to make lighter work of it.
    The 2.2 punches a couple of classes above its weight though.

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    In standard form the TDCi always has the right gear,with near V8 performance it would really show it's hand,the D4D on the other hand has a gearbox that is happy to sit on 80 in fourth or over rev in 5th. Pat

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    Update

    So after swapping the stock ECU back into the vehicle on Wed last week, took it to Land Rover Malaysia early Thursday morning.

    Sadly they had some issues and couldn't get the new 10AS to talk to the rest of the car's systems. So they backed out, put the original 10AS back in and asked me to come collect the vehicle. Maybe a week or more before they might want to try again.

    So the last few days been driving with the stock ECU in place thinking I can bear with it for a week or two.

    Yeah yeah - Nah. Wasn't working for me. After I put the kettle on for breakfast coffee this morning I grabbed the two 'ners and a screw driver and had the other ECU (with BAS 170 Autobiography V2 tune) reinstalled before the kettle boiled!

    Ahhhh..... Feeling much better now.
    Neil
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    Ha ha ha. ✅

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    One thing I've noticed with the new 170 map is that it doesn't seem to have the fire breathing switch at about 75% throttle any more. It seems to have been spread out more.

    The 150 map still does it though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tact View Post
    Numbers are not the final word on "real world" experience behind the wheel. But as a start point:

    Toyota info from Toyota AU web page for the 70 Series
    4.5 litre V8 Turbo-diesel engine
    151kW (ed: ~202hp) power
    Powerful 430Nm of torque

    TDCi w/- BAS 170 Autobiography
    2.2 litre inline 4cyl turbo-diesel
    (~127kW) 170hp
    450Nm torque


    T'would seem the V8 has a lot of scope for for a tuner to make it breathe fire!
    The Toyota is a LOT heaver though. My friend has a 70 series and we were talking about a local hill called Gentle Annie. Gentle Annie is anything but gentle it is long and steep. Anyway he asked me how my Defender handled the hill, I said that I can leave it in top gear (6th) and that I only started to slightly slow down at the top, in 5th I can do 100 all the way to the top. He said that in his 76 series he has to change down otherwise it struggles. My Defender is stock standard and his 76 series is a lot more powerful than the Defender, but it seems that the Defender pulls better so it has to be power to weight ratio. I wonder how much more power the Toyota would need to pull better than the Bas tune?
    Chris

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