Td5 vs tdci

Clearly the tdi is no good at all. Anyone who has a 130 I can happily take the awful thing off their hands so they can get themselves something better :angel:
Chris

Td5 is a land rover engine.
Tdci is a Ford engine.
The best way to upgrade a tdci is the 3.2.
Which is a td5 :p
Yes, parts for a td5 are slightly more expensive than for a tdi, no ****. Parts for a vogue are more expensive than those for a freelander.
Besides, td5 doesn't require the driveline to be put at stupid angles to fit.
And the MT82 is a bag of crap imho.
Nice bait though :angel:

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Oh good, another thread that is going to descend into a TDCi/Td5/Tdi bashing thread. Been a while since we had one.

Have a good day,

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Originally Posted by TimNZ

Oh good, another thread that is going to descend into a TDCi/Td5/Tdi bashing thread. Been a while since we had one.

Have a good day,

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I love my puma. I love its strengths but also acknowledge its weaknesses. Its up to each individual to be honest with themselves so we can better understand the differences between models.

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Originally Posted by Tusker

Just an aside I had a look at a Puma, couldn't find the inertia switch. Do they have one?

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Yes they do, It's on the firewall, right in the middle. Can't miss it.

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Originally Posted by PAT303

You are drawing a very long bow saying the TDCi has silly issue's,there has been a couple of engine failures for sure but overall they are travelling along just fine,something that cannot be said of the Td5.The Td5 and Tdi can be tweaked but so can the TDCi,to levels way above anything the the other two can reach.Regarding the cost difference between the Tdi and Td5 just price parts,alternators,starters and especially cylinder head costs,the Td5 is painfully exxy. Pat

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Yes there are some issues with the puma as i have had some time under the bonnet with a forum member to help . The most silly ones are the coolant & turbo hose layout with built in rubbing points which is just dumb in a 4wd. Even your upgraded turbo hoses still rub holes and leave you stranded ;).
Dont get me started on plastic intake manifolds and plastic rocker covers :eek:
You say cost of parts on a Td5 and quote parts i have yet to replace on my Td5 but had replaced on a Tdi at less k`s than my Td5 :p
So im guessing by the time a Tdi has done two of each which you quote ive replaced one so the cost is similar overall:p:p
Realy some people have had good runs out of Tdis some have not and the same for other engines mentioned that is the way it pans out;)
It is human nature to defend what we own and justify costs so we are all passionate about our own personal cars:cool:
I think from the start this thread it was doomed like that other and the ones befor comparrison threads :p
Yes im passionate about all LR related cars and dont want to see this end up personal or mine is better . Realy does it matter at the end of the day it is your car and you love it so just enjoy it:D

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Originally Posted by cafe latte

Clearly the tdi is no good at all. Anyone who has a 130 I can happily take the awful thing off their hands so they can get themselves something better :angel:
Chris

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That made me laugh Chris, you will find your gem!

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Originally Posted by cafe latte

Clearly the tdi is no good at all. Anyone who has a 130 I can happily take the awful thing off their hands so they can get themselves something better :angel:
Chris

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A mate of mine in Kalgoorlie was in the same boat,he ended up buying a junker off a property and doing it up.It took some work but in the end he got a very good vehicle for a good all up price. Pat

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Originally Posted by Disco Muppet

Td5 is a land rover engine.
Tdci is a Ford engine.
The best way to upgrade a tdci is the 3.2.
Which is a td5 :p
Yes, parts for a td5 are slightly more expensive than for a tdi, no ****. Parts for a vogue are more expensive than those for a freelander.
Besides, td5 doesn't require the driveline to be put at stupid angles to fit.
And the MT82 is a bag of crap imho.
Nice bait though :angel:

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If they weren't going to use a Land Rover motor, it's a shame they didn't fit the Ranger motor instead of the Transit motor. I've no doubt it would have been a much better option. I would assume that since the Td5 fits into the engine bay the Ranger motor would fit also. Actually, they could have also fit the Ranger auto which would have been a great option to have.

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Originally Posted by 1nando

Its not plug and play, the standard ecu is simply remapped. When i say fitted and tuned i mean;
- supply intercooler and fit it.
- blank egr with plate
- supply and fit a decat front pipe
- remap standard ecu with egr switched off and new map

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Just to clarify here, as there's a mix of references to TD5 and TDCi in previous posts. The statement from 1nando is correct (I believe - no personal experience) for a TD5 remap but not for the TDCi remap (I know - have done the upgrades to my TDCi). The TDCi BAS upgrade requires changing the ECU for one which is remap-able - so not quite "plug and play". Once the ECU is changed it becomes a simple download from a selection of maps - standard, 150HP or 170HP - true "plug and play". These remaps leave the EGR valve closed through the ECU programming, so no need to fit a blanking plate - so "plug and play". Only the 170HP requires the upgraded intercooler and then only for high ambient temperature situations if you actually want the full 170HP available.

If my D90 had been available brand new with a choice of engines - TDi, TD5 or 2.2 Puma my choice would have been for the Puma 1st, TDi 2nd and TD5 3rd. Any of them would happily be welcome in my garage but the 2.2 is a fantastic little engine. :-)