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Defender has a great look and feel of a little truck. Clearly it's great off-road. You can get that same truck feel and off-road ability from a manual D2. In addition you get wider interior but still slim enough for tracks and more comfort (for me, others differ). The difference in price is stark. The D2 has a lot to offer. For me a built up one has all the adventure feel of a Deefer but with more safety and comfort.
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[QUOTE=Andrew86;2777311]To be fair, it's his car and if he's decided that $45k the number he can live with to let it go then he has every right to stick to that figure. The market for Defenders is small so it isn't unusual for cars to sit around for months, even when the price is right.
It's always a good idea to check your attitude at the door when going into private sales negotiations too. You're much more likely to find a seller willing to lower their price if they feel their pride and joy is going to a good h
D2s are great, but for long term touring it means that you sleep on the ground, in a rooftop tent ( which I hate ), or tow a camper. A decent camper for touring brings the price up to line ball.Quote:
Originally Posted by ozscott
Now, if LR had built a D2 ute...
Yep good point. I use an instant up Coleman Gold and stretchers with self inflators and my boys and I did the far North in comfort with very quick set up and pack up times. Cheers
D2, D1, Rangie classic! Even a p38.Quote:
Originally Posted by ozscott
I would rather room and comfort. If only the defender had this!
Not this again...it's pretty obvious, but here's a short list to start with:Quote:
Originally Posted by martnH
Aluminium panels + heavy chassis = low centre of gravity
Economical engine
Four coils suspension, superior wheel travel and excellent ground clearance
Constant 4x4, Centre difflock, heavy duty + upgradable driveline.
Excellent low range gearing
Boxy shape - practical load carrying
Robust Practical materials + Hose out interior
Excellent four corner visibility off road
Huge aftermarket parts network
live axles
16" wheels
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One of the most iconic design of all time.
You cant say the defenders are desirable just because they are iconic. The defender is iconic for good reasons and not all of it is historical.
Now more than ever, it is versatile in ways most other 4x4s are not. Defender has scope for 90, 110, 130, utes, camper bodies, pop tops, ambulances, fire engines.... bolt ons galore!
You cannot 'build' a D1-2-3-4-5 like you can a defender. A defender has 35 years of genuine parts to choose from. Then theres the aftermarket which is huge. There have been countless custom builds done for services, overlanders and enthusiasts. Its all out there, pick and choose or dare to attempt something unique.
Durability and practicallity - yep, still got it. If you smash up a panel, unbolt it and replace. The engine and driveline all sit in space that is easilly accessible should you need to spin a spanner. It has a high usable payload with versatile range of suspension options to suit.
A defender is a 4x4 that can get out there and explore worldwide. The rest are almost entirely family orientated SUVs for sophisticated markets.
For these reasons and more it is still one of the best expedition/adventure 4x4s available. Prices reflect that. SUVs in the show rooms today do not even come close.
Or an old HJ wagon will get you around the country. ...or maybe a Maserati Levante?Quote:
Originally Posted by Vern
The point is that there is endless choice for all budgets depending on the spin.
I just reckon a Defender is the best choice if you can get one.
Yup, or you could get a Ssangyong Musso. [thumbsupbig][bigwhistle] Whatevs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vern
The choice is endless if you don't want a Defender.