Thread: Defenders on "Car Sales."

Originally Posted by manic

Im surprised you got it for 43k. I thought Malaysia had import taxes on foreign cars in the region of 200%!?

That is correct for foreign passenger cars imported CBU. The DCPU is quite rightly classed as a commercial vehicle and were imported CKD, assembled/built in Malaysia. (By inokom in Kulim)

The defenders in KL don't have the cult following they seem to have in Oz. If I sold mine in KL I'd be lucky to get the equivalent of AU$30k. Would hate to then pay $50-60k in Oz to replace it!

Originally Posted by jon3950

As if we needed any convincing of that, but any excuse to post a pic of a Defender.

You make a good point about the D4 or RRS though. They're much more sensible vehicles and probably better value for money. Just not as cool.

Cheers,
Jon

Hmmm.....Listening to the sound of my TDV8 RRS as I give the throttle pedal a little nudge might have to dispute the cool part!!! and the comfy drive and the.....well you would know if you have driven one!!!

Love my Defender too!!!

Originally Posted by manic

Im surprised you got it for 43k. I thought Malaysia had import taxes on foreign cars in the region of 200%!?

Forgot to mention in the last reply that as a commercial vehicle one of the taxes is reduced to zero (sales tax?) as well as reduced import duty for being assembled in Malaysia.

Check out the 2nd hand Defender for sale in Malaysia in the link. (A Malaysian site a bit like gumtree)
2015 Land Rover Defender 2.2 (M) - Cars for sale in Petaling Jaya, Selangor

- supposedly under 5000km
- supposedly MY2015

Its the same colour as mine and looks to be in the same original trim state as mine was. Curiously the asking price (2nd hand 2015 model) is exactly the price I paid for my 2013 model brand new back in 2013. (RM138,888 = ~AU$43k).

I think the price brand new at the dealers for 2015 models in 2015 was more like RM158k (~AU$49k) so the seller is only giving up about AU$6k in depreciation.

The cost to ship my beast over to Oz comes to under AU$10k includes
- pick up from my home in Malaysia
- shipping and insurance
- all port and fees related to the export from Malaysia
- the personal imports application and fees
- all port fees and import inspections and fees at Port Kembla to release to compliance workshop in Sydney
- taxes, GST and duties
- cartage from Port Kembla to Sydney
- engineering and inspection fees to register the vehicle in NSW

The only additional fees I am expecting to pay are local rego and insurance.

I own the vehicle outright. So apart from consumables and mods it cost me the purchase price plus the $10k to get it here. - ~$53k. I see that as a better deal than losing money on the sale in Malaysia and taking the risk in buying a 3yr old dual cab here. The devil I know.

Sounds like you have it all sorted as well. Good job.

Originally Posted by cuppabillytea

Sounds like you have it all sorted as well. Good job.

Well.....I hope there are no nasty surprises between now and when I get to take delivery. The mods to tune and diffs wont be visible to mechanical inspections. The larger intercooler will be visible to someone who knows the marque - but shouldn't cause inspection worries (?).

Expecting to be pinged for the 255/85R16 rubber. Had a few minor oil leaks tidied up by my Malaysian mechanic, hope no new leaks have opened up in transit. Quarantine may insist on additional fumigation and steam cleaning at additional cost.

Apart from that the vehicle just looks like its been dragged through the jungle. Nicely scratched from stem to stern and left to right and back again. Might look out of place if a carefully shined cousin dares to apply "parking rules".

But regardless where it has been driven, I know how its been driven and serviced and upgraded. Streets ahead of the raffle that is buying an unknown second hand vehicle

Too true Neil.
The only problem I can see is if the Tyres are not completely covered. Size doesn't matter, at least not to RTA Inspectors. The rules regarding lifting and Tyre size have been relaxed a little in NSW, or so I'm told.

Originally Posted by tact

Well.....I hope there are no nasty surprises between now and when I get to take delivery. The mods to tune and diffs wont be visible to mechanical inspections. The larger intercooler will be visible to someone who knows the marque - but shouldn't cause inspection worries (?).

Expecting to be pinged for the 255/85R16 rubber. Had a few minor oil leaks tidied up by my Malaysian mechanic, hope no new leaks have opened up in transit. Quarantine may insist on additional fumigation and steam cleaning at additional cost.

Apart from that the vehicle just looks like its been dragged through the jungle. Nicely scratched from stem to stern and left to right and back again. Might look out of place if a carefully shined cousin dares to apply "parking rules".

But regardless where it has been driven, I know how its been driven and serviced and upgraded. Streets ahead of the raffle that is buying an unknown second hand vehicle

Prior to delivery the only inspection that is likely to cost you is the quarantine check. The modifications will come under scrutiny when you take it for a roadworthy. But by then you will have received the vehicle and be able to drive it on a temporary permit to a mechanic of your choosing.

I failed my roadworthy after import, I had a newly rebuilt 'Defender' which I proudly presented to a reputable Land Rover workshop and they served me a list of 'non-standard' issues about two pages long! So I drove it out to a back street workshop for inspection and got it down to a reasonable half a page. The 285/75/r16's were not on the list. Mine was a heavily modified 1989 LR90 panel sided van from the UK, the equivalent of which was not sold in this country. Your 2013 Puma should sail through.

Even back in 2011 I found prices in Australia for Defenders were higher than the UK. And now the prices are madness, so I think you have made the right choice.

[QUOTE=tact;2669906]Wow! The prices Defenders are fetching is crazy here in Oz. Largely the reason I am shipping mine over here instead of selling it in Malaysia and buying an equivalent model locally. QUOTE]
High prices may be being asked but are they getting them? I and another owner have had ours advertised for some time now and have had some response but not the "phone ringing off the hook" I thought I might get.
Mine has slightly more than average mileage but has been over serviced, has no dings (except car park doors....) and has been well used not abused (even the cook hasn't driven it) and is a totally reliable vehicle. Isn't overpriced either from what I can see.
Lot of hearsay around but not much truth in most of it I don't think.
AlanH.