Thread: Defenders on "Car Sales."

Originally Posted by 1nando

I don't understand why people that own defenders are complaining about luxuries. If you wanted luxury why didn't you buy a discovery/200 series etc?

I love my Defender for the same reasons you do - it's a throwback to the simplicity of yesteryear. The truth is though, there aren't many Windows 95 fans left in the world and Land Rover - being a rational, profit seeking business - should be looking to the latest and greatest to make the replacement as good as it can be. I still think that can be done while retaining ruggedness and capability of the originals.

I don't think anyone is complaining that their current Defenders don't have all the fruit of modern cars. I just don't see any reason for it to stay that way when it comes to the replacement.

Originally Posted by MrLandy

But then with all that fruit it would be more like $80-100K which would actually make current higher prices for up to 2016 model look cheap. There could also be a no frills option at $60-70K.

All that fruit will be pretty standard fare on cars by 2020. Even today a lot of the tech I listed is readily available on mainstream hatchbacks (Mazda 3) that lost less than $40k.

Win 95 !? Defender = DOS. Doesn't need any of that double click, drag and drop, trash can, paper clip assistant rubbish!

CD /expedition
launch.exe

DOS.

More like an abacus really... I like the green sliders too!

Originally Posted by YOLO110

DOS. More like an abacus really... I like the green sliders too!

Ha ha ha


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You seem surprised MRLandy that a new vehicle may be in the realm of $80k with lots of features - yet Yotas alternative already floats in that space for cost.

Based on the discussion that the Defender was an equal to these vehicles one could extrapolate that they were underpriced for a long time.

Also, the Yota is also a benchmark for expeditionary travel - just like the Defender. That vehicle has had a multitude of electronics running the show since the TwinCam Diesel.

In much the same way - Defender is about the image of Adventure.. Based on Iconic recognition of shape.

Yet out in the real world, adventure is had in multitudes of vehicles and brands, each with their own inherent strengths and weaknesses.

Most "travellers" I've come across in the last couple of years are in highly electronic, gadget filled, LC Dual Cabs.

It isn't an image - it's about getting out there. In whatever you have.

Many members here do trips I find saddening in the time they have to travel - in amongst work and other commitments - means they push the envelope to see as much as possible in a short time restriction and miss the real atmosphere of the areas they travel.
But they get out there all the same.

Very few 4wd owners of any marque get to fully use their vehicles.

I hope that LR keep up with the times, and that the forthcoming vehicles continue the spirit of Automotive Pioneering and Ingenuity - and *that* is what LR are renown for.

Either way - were hoping to keep the 90 for many years - and by accident rather than design it looks like it will hold some value.

But value is only important if one wants to sell. And then only if the buyer is willing to pay.
There I think may be the problem!!!

When it comes to LR owners - many are so tight that if they wedged a lump of coal up their butt a week later there would be a diamond!

So who is going to buy these vehicles?

Originally Posted by YOLO110

DOS.

More like an abacus really... I like the green sliders too!

Haha

Well actually to be accurate and all inclusive :

Abacus: series 1
Arithmometer: s2
Comptometer: s3
Commadore VIC-20: 90/110/130
DOS: TDI
Win 3.11 : TD5
Win 95 : Puma

As the "O.P." of this thread I can say that most of the recent posts on the thread have had very little to do with my intention & thrust, of the thread which was of course, to discuss the defenders on Carsales.
Consequently, I am commencing another thread,.."The New Defender,..Your thoughts".
Pickles.