Cooper tyres on 110

If you were happy with the Michellins, why not go back to them.

I've got the Michellin LTX AT2 (235/85R16) on my 110. They have a 3ply sidewall, are quiet, good in the wet and last a long time. I replaced the last set with 100,000km on them and they were still legal. 20,000km of that 100K was off road (Cape York, Tanami, Gulf, Kimberley...)

I can only give 3rd party comment on the Coopers, I've heard too many bad reports from owners and tyre shops about them. One guy at work with a set on his Patrol has had 14 warranty replacements. Coopers don't want to replace them, so he sits in the tyre shop each time till they do. That's the youngest 14 days of his life gone.

Well there seem to be two opposing camps here! Thanks for all the comments.

Yes I was generally happy with the Michelin's. The concerns were they are noisy, quite hard to find and for the money the life was not brilliant. They did perform well and seem to be light years ahead of coopers in terms of safety which at the end of the day is the most important point. I had heard good things about coopers recently and google searches supported that and they were also recommend by a local tyre shop (incidentally not the one I purchased them from) but would happily revert to Michelin's.

Anyone interested in buying a pair of coopers? Less than 300kms on them at present :-)

Cheers
Simon


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Another under-rated option are Bridgestone 661 AT's (235/85R16). I've posted about these before if you do a search. They are the best tyres IMO, 3 ply also and very tough, all the mines and cattle stations up north use them, which is where I first used them. 70-80K km in a set and I'm on my 4th set now. Definately better than Coopers IMO, but I know many love coopers (incidently I've got a set of 4 coopers for sale too if anyone wants them). I might also be tempted to give the Michellin LTX AT2 (235/85R16) a go for a change by the sound of them.

The Michelin's I replaced were 750R16 4x4 XZL's but having a look tonight they don't appear to be available in Australia anymore. I bought the last ones at the end of 2012 and they were $421 each back then. I guess i got 60k out of them.

Cheers
Simon

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Originally Posted by travelrover

The Michelin's I replaced were 750R16 4x4 XZL's but having a look tonight they don't appear to be available in Australia anymore. I bought the last ones at the end of 2012 and they were $421 each back then. I guess i got 60k out of them.

Cheers
Simon

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The Michelin selection is very limited. I was a bit concerned about traction with the LTX AT2's but have found them to be really good. Price is about $300ea if you shop around. They come with two load ratings, so the extra $10-$20 for the higher rating is worth it, and price-wise they compare well to everything else, and given the mileage they deliver, I'd say they work out quite cheap.

Had a new set of cooper Stt put on my Colorado approx 8 months ago. The Colorado does the same tracks on my farm as my Landy and Mazda do and neither of them have ever gotten a single flat out here. I've had 3 coopers fail in under in as many months from 2 sidewall failures and a small piece of slate puncturing in between the tread blocks on the other.
I am an overly anal mechanic so tyre pressures and wheel alignments etc are very high on my list . Was so sorely disappointed after running the coopers finally when I got so many good reviews from other people. Also should note that I got a lot more aggressive wear on the coopers than I had with either bfg, maxxis or the michelins.

Cannot comment on the Coopers, but another tyre to consider are
Hankook Dynapro ATM RF10s.

Got a set on my Perentie. Haven't had them offroad yet, but very happy with their on road performance and (low) noise.
By all reports they should be fairly capable off road as well.

Yes availability is my concern about Michelins too. Bridgestone 661's are available everywhere.

I run coopers and have never had a problem in the wet or ever.
A set of STT's did 90k on my rangie and I have a set of 285/75 STT's on my 130 which have done just over 70k now with about 30% left. They do a lot of highway driving and fast dirt roads plus a fair share of rough crawling.

It is usually fairly loaded up (300kg in the tray) and I run 36psi rears and 32fronts with a rotation every 10k

I think the Cooper Horror stories would be the same for these people if they were running BFG, Goodyear, Maxxis, bla bla bla.

No tyre is bulletproof, if your doing nasty stuff expect some damage.

Careful wheel placement, correct tyre pressures for terrain, common sense and most of the big brands will stand up.

Some will handle the wet better, some the highway better, some the dirt and corrugated roads better, some the mud, some the rocks and some the sand. What do you want out of your tyres?

Admittedly, I jumped in my wife's Colorado 7 last week and we had a little rain, the same corner I always travel I found myself sideways a little, same tyres as the Defender Cooper ST MAXX yet I never get sideways in the Deefer, I get away with a lot more in the Deefer because of the constant 4WD. So that's my compromise over a better wet weather tyre, I opted for something more durable Offroad.

You'd be splitting hairs if your talking about tread punctures between the brands, IMO whatever puncture you'd get with the BFG or Bridgestone etc you would get with the Coopers, sometimes it just happens, could be wrong tyre pressures despite people saying they had the correct pressure in, ha what is the correct pressure???
It changes as your terrain changes and let's face it your not going to keep stopping on a track to change tyre pressures are you???

Too many variables when it comes to tyres, ring the manufacturer for info not the tyre dealer. I did this before purchasing the Coopers, I phoned Bridgestone and got the tech info on the D674 and I phones Coopers and got the tech info on the ST Maxx. I put questions to them on the opposing tyres I was considering, and although the Bridgestone got a good wrap from the tech guy they weren't up to the sidewall protection of the Coopers, which is more important to ME (maybe not you).
Like I said most of the brands have similar tread technology but not all have the sidewall technology. 99.9999% of. The time it's the tread that is in contact.

So what is the BEST tyre, whatever your comfortable with, whatever your budget is. If you stick with the major brands you can't go wrong.

Again, the horror stories would have happened no matter what brand tyre they were driving on (within reason).

My last Puma started out with BFG MUDS and after about 10k Klm I had a sidewall puncture, so I ran out and replaced them with Coopers. Ha ha ha there is a story behind it.

I was on the farm on the track, didn't let my tyres down because it was a compacted dirt track, so I was running 40psi. I decided I would make a phone call and as I was stuffing around with the phone I veered off the track and nipped a rock the size of a small soccer ball (not round). It split the sidewall open, now I don't think any tyre would have done any better in that situation now reflecting back but at the time it didn't seem that dramatic and I had extreme disappointment that the tyre had failed so....

So I sold the remaining 4 with only 10k or less (can't remember exactly) Klm on them, to a forum member and went out and got me self some Bullet Proof tyres ha ha ha.

Maybe the Coopers would have or wouldn't have stood up in the same scenario but I feel more comfortable having that higher percentage of a thicker sidewall for the next time I do something stupid or am too lazy to adjust pressures ha ha ha

Buy whatever YOU are comfortable with, you will do your head in reading different reviews on people's experiences with their tyres, I know I did ha ha ha

I secretly admire the new BFG AT's he he he.

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