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Thread: Coil and airbag combos

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    Quote Originally Posted by steane View Post
    I had real issues with the things stopping the springs from compressing fully and preventing the shocks from working effectively. Result was plenty of crashing and banging in certain types of terrain.
    That's been my concern when looking at bags. It still don't get it. If you are trying to avoid your vehicle bottoming out on the bump stops, adding bags will make your suspension bump stop a lot earlier, except the bump stop is now the bag. I'm sure its a more cushioned stop but wouldn't a wild bump on a dirt road smash you into those bags hard and early, well before the spring has done enough compression to take enough force out of it?

    As I said before, the rear springs on a defender are easy to swap. If you have some chassis stands: Jack up the axle, stands under chassis, remove wheels, drop axles to full extension, remove springs, replace.

    It depends how you use your vehicle day to day but you could whack in some tough springs before a big trip and return to soft springs when you get back. Not quite as fast as inflating an air bag but better for the ride, certainly offroad.

    My 2 cents on Holmesy's 130. I'd say that the tray extends past the rear cross member too much for it to take much weight back there. I would be reluctant to hang anything beyond the chassis rear cross member. The amount of leverage the back of the tray would have on the chassis rails is clearly enough to apply frightening amounts of force.

    I would only see the chassis failure as a Land Rover issue if it happened on an approved tub/tray. Who ever built and bolted the tray on should have established a weight limit for the tray and if you can prove that you were under that limit, they are liable for the damage. Good luck with it, hopefully your back on the road with a fresh one soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holmesy68 View Post
    Cheng,

    In my brief experience, that suspension set up would melt their tiny brains. Don't get me started.

    Out of interest, how much overhang do you have from the end of the chassis to the end of the tray?
    720mm. My camper has all the weight - water tank, fridge, stove storage aux battery etc. up front near the headboard of the tray.

    I had the guys at Tip Top use the most heavy duty tray they had and mounted it so as the weight was as evenly distributed as possible.

    I have had this setup go cross country west east across the Simpson off-track over spinifex hummocks and crossing 000s of dunes of all sizes and the ride was great compared to my old 200 Tdi 110
    Chenz
    I do not wish to be a member of any club that would have me as a member

    Former Owner of The Red Terror - 1992 Defender 200Tdi
    Edjitmobile - 2008 130 Defender

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    The only argument I can see lr using is what another poster said about weight past the rear x member. If they can say you had 400-500 or more kg positioned past the rear ( 170+ for trailer, 60 for outboard, 50 for boat and 1/2 the slide ??kg )and only 200 in front, along with no limits by the tray manufacturing company they may try and get out.

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    I have just received a response from LR solicitors. The argument hasn't got that technical yet. They are saying that I have non genuine non approved accessories fitted including ARB bullbar, Safari snorkel, etc etc.
    They are no where quoting weights and measurements. They did however mention that the tray extended past the rear axle. It would be pretty short if it doesn't.
    The battle goes on.

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