The "New" Defender, ...Your Thoughts?

**Disco-tastic** · 30th June 2016, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by PAT303

Never going to happen,320km range is under test conditions by a test driver,a normal person driving on a normal road with head winds,load,inclines etc will be half.Remember that that range is with fully charged batteries also,anyone who believes 100% electric will displace ICE needs to think of why after 100 years motor vehicles are the only mode of transport that has never changed,everything else,ships,trains,planes have evolved,cars never have. Pat

Yep... You're right Pat. The car has never evolved

**PAT303** · 30th June 2016, 09:01 PM

All still have an engine,gearbox,four wheels and a steering wheel,how many sailing ships,steam trains and biplanes still earn a living today

. Pat

MrLandy · 30th June 2016, 09:58 PM

All have hulls, wings, or run on tracks.

**vnx205** · 1st July 2016, 07:04 AM

Originally Posted by PAT303

All still have an engine,gearbox,four wheels and a steering wheel,how many sailing ships,steam trains and biplanes still earn a living today

. Pat

Gearbox? Tesla?

The car started with three wheels and no steering wheel; the Benz Patent Motorwagen.

The Morgan stlll has three wheels.

**bee utey** · 1st July 2016, 10:22 AM

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**AndyG** · 1st July 2016, 10:31 AM

How the heck does the Morgan dodge the rules, including the ugly test.
Limited production volume, or do they think its a ride on mower

**AndyG** · 1st July 2016, 10:35 AM

The 1958 Ford Nucleon: A Nuclear-Powered Car | Oddly Historical

Let's not muck around, lets get some decent range into our beasts.
A little bit more R&D required

**manic** · 1st July 2016, 08:44 PM

Originally Posted by steane

I agree. EVs with big ranges will be a reality and they won't have an issue in the country. The only thing that will change is refueling and it would be wrong (IMO) to assume that that is an issue that will hold them back. It will just be one of many changes we have coming in the next decade.

I like your optimism, but I think it's at least a quarter century before the majority are getting transported in battery powered ev's! After bringing them to market they still have to sell over half a billion.

Didge · 1st July 2016, 09:27 PM

Digital cameras were never gonna take over either - apparently the battery boffins are on the verge of a breakthrough that will see vastly increased capacity that will make electric cars common. Apparently Australia has the largest deposits of vanadium (liquid that can store a charge) in the world and Unisearch at the Uni of NSW was making great inroads into investigating how it could be utlised as an alternative to conventional fossil fuels but the govt, in their wisdom, pulled the plug on the funding. Imagine the Saudis pulling the plug on oil exploration. It would have been so easy, running low on charge, full into a charging station, empty the depleted vanadium and fill up on charged stuff. Electric cars will take over - not much to hold them back as long as the source of power is clean.

Also, 9kg swap'n'go gas bottles sounded stupid at first.

**steane** · 1st July 2016, 09:51 PM

Originally Posted by manic

I like your optimism, but I think it's at least a quarter century before the majority are getting transported in battery powered ev's! After bringing them to market they still have to sell over half a billion.

It's not my view that the majority will be driving EVs in 10 years. My view is that 10 years from now EVs will be a perfectly viable alternative for all motorists, even those out bush and all manufacturers will be building them and eventually phasing out the ICE. That might seem optimistic, but I think most people under estimate how quickly this is ramping up.

There has been a fundamental shift over the last year and car manufacturers are all heading in the same direction now.

Time will tell!

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