The "New" Defender, ...Your Thoughts?

MrLandy · 2nd July 2016, 06:42 PM

Absolutely Pat. The real deal in environmentally friendly electric vehicles is potentially a long way off. Which is why diesel hybrid is most likely. But there will be a lot more environmentally friendly pressure on vehicle manufacturers over the next 5 years than even imagined now IMO. The big question is whether the design of a new Defender is a priority in this environment. A Defender isn't primarily an urban vehicle, unless JLR trivialise it. I'm actually surprised that we don't yet have a hybrid Disco Sport.

**rar110** · 3rd July 2016, 07:59 AM

I'm sure there will be a hybrid D5 now JLR have had it on the L405. They will try it on either the Evoque or Disco Sport.

I think a while after after the D4 is replaced by the rounder D5, JLR will start road testing a new Defender which will be more square shaped like the very successful D4 than the last Defender. However it will need to fit a market segment that doesn't take sales from the D5.

MrLandy · 3rd July 2016, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by rar110

JLR will start road testing a new Defender which will be more square shaped like the very successful D4 than the last Defender. However it will need to fit a market segment that doesn't take sales from the D5.

If so, Defender will effectively be a D5, even if it's called a Defender. New Discovey will just be called Discovery and will take market share from Range Rover Sport, Audi, BMW, VW, etc. Many previous D4 customers will then buy new Defender instead and the previous Defender buyers will have nowhere to go. It's arguably a predictable slight of hand by JLR to extricate itself from the HD work vehicle segment and it's been JLR's plan all along IMO.

**PAT303** · 3rd July 2016, 02:38 PM

Yes Mr Landy,you are right,the next Defender will be a D5 fitted with Defender stickers because Land Rover have forgotten how to build rough tough vehicles for real Ozzie men and instead has it's sights aimed squarely at the Gay hairdresser crowd

. Pat

cafe latte · 3rd July 2016, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by PAT303

Yes Mr Landy,you are right,the next Defender will be a D5 fitted with Defender stickers because Land Rover have forgotten how to build rough tough vehicles for real Ozzie men and instead has it's sights aimed squarely at the Gay hairdresser crowd

. Pat

Actually the sales guy who sold me my Defender is gay and one of the best 4x4 drivers at the dealer too. And a very decent bloke too.
Chris

MrLandy · 3rd July 2016, 05:32 PM

Land Rover drivers' sexuality has nothing to do with anything in this discussion. I'm not discussing drivers. I'm discussing vehicles and the likely outcomes of Land Rover's shift in focus towards luxury and urban centric designs, the end of Defender and what a new Defender might or might not be.

**karlz** · 3rd July 2016, 05:45 PM

Agree

sheerluck · 3rd July 2016, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by MrLandy

.....If so, Defender will effectively be a D5, even if it's called a Defender.....

As opposed to now, where it's effectively a Ford Transit.

**cuppabillytea** · 3rd July 2016, 06:36 PM

Originally Posted by sheerluck

As opposed to now, where it's effectively a Ford Transit.

Arrgh I'm cut to the bone.

**scarry** · 3rd July 2016, 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by cuppabillytea

Arrgh I'm cut to the bone.

Don't worry,i am sure last time i saw a Ford transit it looked nothing like a Deefer.And i am sure the Deefer doesn't look like a transit.

Or am i missing something??

Must be a mistake somewhere.

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