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Thread: The "New" Defender, ...Your Thoughts?

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    I'd contribute half a case of Shiraz to that party too! But we'll be ancient if we wait til the new Defender is released! ...reckon we should drink Shiraz and 'discuss' around the fire well before 2020!

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    Quote Originally Posted by steane View Post
    If that happens, next time I'm in Melbourne I'll drop in with two nice bottles of Clare Valley Shiraz, one of which I'll help you drink
    You're welcome to drop in here anytime.

    I took a liking to the Shut the Gate Single Site Shiraz last time I was there.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAT303 View Post
    It's easy to get very large improvements in regards to fuel economy,make the kids ride bikes to school instead of driving them. Pat
    Ahh,we could have a whole thread on this..........

    Even catching a bus would be a massive improvement and keep thousands of cars off the road.

    And riding bikes,just what kids need today,a bit of exercise and fresh air.....

    Cant keep going,i will get shot to pieces and it is way off topic....
    paul

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    I love the idea of an hybrid or all electric 'Defender' but, what about us poor fellas who'd like to keep our old fossils? I plan to hand it down to my kids when I kick the bucket but how will I fuel it now and then if there is no longer petrol/diesel? I think I need to get the 300TDi swapped in and then run it on the fish and chip shop oil. The "New" Defender, ...Your Thoughts?

    Nathan.

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    I suspect that diesel at least will be around for a long time, even if "cars" need to be electric. It is going to be a long time, I suspect, before EV technology manages to meet the needs of long distance haulage, either road or rail, and even longer before it meets the needs for compactness and endurance needed for earth moving and farm machinery. Just to take the last - how long before there will be electric tractors that can economically spend ten months of the year in a shed and then operate 23hours a day to get the crop in when it rains?

    And then there are all those small petrol motors that are used only occasionally. Certainly some of them are being replaced by cordless electrical devices, but how about the standby generator for emergency use when the grid is out? Or the firefighting pump? So even if "cars" can no longer use petrol or diesel, I expect that fuel will still be available, in the same vein that, for example, candles still are. While the reduced production will mean it will cost more, I suppose there is some hope that this may be offset by a reduction in excise, since most of the fuel sold will be for uses where excise is refundable.
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    With you there, I spotted another Cat D2 in the general vicinity of our farm the other day, that makes 3 in a 20KM or so radius, all still in use and they stopped manufacturing those in 1957.

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    Yes - my tractor is 48 years old - both my neighbours have working tractors similar ages, although both also have newer tractors - one has one only twenty years old, the other (I think he has four or five working tractors) has recently acquired a BIG one, which I think is about ten years old. Not too many farmers round here can afford to buy new tractors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jon3950 View Post
    You're welcome to drop in here anytime.

    I took a liking to the Shut the Gate Single Site Shiraz last time I was there.......
    Haha...! I haven't tried that one but will keep an eye out for it, if it's available in bottle shops. Some of the good stuff never makes it to the retail chains.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JDNSW View Post
    Yes - my tractor is 48 years old - both my neighbours have working tractors similar ages, although both also have newer tractors - one has one only twenty years old, the other (I think he has four or five working tractors) has recently acquired a BIG one, which I think is about ten years old. Not too many farmers round here can afford to buy new tractors.
    Most people can't 'afford' new Land Rovers either and many who buy one are doing so solely because of low interest rates and home equity. It's boom time for some, which appears to be why all new Land Rovers are aimed at the urban luxury market, not farmers. Hmmm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeros View Post
    I'd contribute half a case of Shiraz to that party too! But we'll be ancient if we wait til the new Defender is released! ...reckon we should drink Shiraz and 'discuss' around the fire well before 2020!
    Unfortunately, I'm drinking my share already, maybe not too much around a campfire, but there seems to be always the odd empty bottle around!!
    Always looking for a good drop, I'd have to say Bin 28 is usually good. Went to the National Gallery yesterday, where Wifey is a member, and had a very nice medium rare rib-eye in the attached Garden Restaurant. We had a bottle of Bishop? (can't remember the full name!) Shiraz which went down very nicely,...there's a lot of good stuff around,...unfortunately some bad ones too!
    Finally, I'm not into "Art", but the National Gallery is quite special, I'd recommend a visit.
    Anyway, if there's any "get togethers" involving Shiraz, I'm in!
    Pickles.
    NB: I've done a bit of research for any wine drinkers. The wine we drank was "Bishop Shiraz" made bt Glaetzer Wines, Barossa,..av price seems to be around $30.

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