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    The "New" Defender, ...Your Thoughts?

    Some say that there will not be a "new" Defender, that JLR have lost the plot, they're not interested in the Defender "market", whatever that is, any more, they're only interested in shiny, up market, "Chapel St", Trendy vehicles like Evoque, Discovery Sport, Range Rover, etc etc.
    I disagree, I believe, that whilst I may not want another JLR product named Defender, there will definitely be one, but I, like everybody else as far as I know, have no idea what will constitute any "New" Defender.
    So, here's your chance. What will it be like, what market will it attract, and when do you think it will arrive,....if ever (if that is your opinion of course).
    My opinion is that there will definitely be one, it will have an, on the small side, Ingenium diesel engine, be roughly (maybe a bit bigger) the same size as the current Defender, and there will be some "Old Defender", in the "shape" of the new one. Driveline?...I have no idea. Price?...$50-$80K, depending upon spec. Arrival, or at least we will have an idea of what it will be like because JLR will have released something...2018.
    Of course I really have no idea at all, these are just a few of my thoughts, which may turn out to be absolute rubbish.
    Pickles.

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    Not sure either. I think it could be a very basic discovery, a commercial version if you like.
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    My reply is simple,Land Rover aren't stupid.They will build a very good, better/best ever Defender that will be sold all over the world along with the other models in the line.I do not have any issue's at all except it will have to have all the modern gear fitted,eg emissions/pedestrian safety/crash safety/crash avoidance,in other words crap it doesn't need but we can't get away from the fact we live in the modern world which means we have to protect dumb arses from their own stupidity and incompetency as well as not forgetting any and all forms of personal responsibility.And lets never forget the baby seals . Pat

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    I believe it will be innovative, capable and best in class.

    People laughed when VW entered the 4 door Utility market but they took their time, and came up trumps with a quality product.

    I'm sure that's what will happen here.

    Even better if they do multiple engine options - small engine for EU compliance and a bigger, more powerful engine for OS (after all the Yanks will want something grunty as well).

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    Haven't we got a long thread the same as this already - started by Pickles2 as well?

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    I've got my $$$ on at least two different defenders. A slightly bigger than current dual cab(130inch), wagon(115ish inch) and a ute with hopefully 2-4 engine choices and then a smaller series 1/ evoke size suv two door and 4 ,maybe convertible like a wrangler or a RAV4/vita ra/ xtrail /crv/ forester etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spudboy View Post
    Haven't we got a long thread the same as this already - started by Pickles2 as well?
    If you read my last post in the thread, titled, & about "Carsales", and yes, started by me, you will see my words to the effect that the "old thread" started by me, was NOTHING to do with the "New" Defender,...it was & still is, intended to be for the purpose of monitoring Defenders on carsales,....NOTHING to do with the "New" Defender at all, (thread has been somewhat hi-jacked)....hense this thread, which hopefully WILL be about your thoughts, if you have any, on the "New" Defender.
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    OK - no worries.

    I am waiting like everyone else with high hopes. They do such a good job of Range Rover and Discovery (and perhaps the Evoque too - but I don't know anything about them).

    They mush have a fabulous war chest of money to throw at it. Unlike the old Leyland days with RR and SIII.

    This time, when ever they are released, I am going to wait patiently for a couple of years until the main bugs have been ironed out, and then dive in.

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    I think/hope its going to throw the yardstick way ahead of the pack with engineering that other ute builders will take years to get their head around. A bit like the current Defender did all those years ago i.e. coils all round, discs all round, permanent (read 'proper') 4wd.

    Id expect to see idependant suspension and airbags all round with manual control for loading/unloading.
    Wheel options to suit a true commercial vehicle to take truck tyre sizes.

    Id like to see a large capacity, low rated engine option ( E.g. cummins ISF 3.8) for people who actually use these vehicles for work.
    A true dual range gearbox with splitting on 4th, 5th & 6th would also be a nice option. I cant believe no one builds these yet.

    Wait. Maybe I should just buy a truck.

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    Like I said in the previous thread, I don't think there will be a new defender but with the off chance that there is one, it will totally different with all the modern comforts and technology. As Tombie mentioned in my previous thread there is nothing wrong with technology and comforts but I don't think you can beat the simplicity and originality of this defender.
    I suppose the same can be said about the transition from series III to Puma, but it is all relevant with what you consider as "baseline" defender or series.
    Time will tell.
    Cheers

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