Thread: Bell Auto Services Hi-flow Intercooler. Any comments or reviews?

Some feedback on fitting the the intercooler appearing on faceplant ...

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Wonder how it compares to the Allisport given that its coated.
As Allisport state, any coating on the aluminium will impede heat transfer.

Originally Posted by Tombie

whilst allowing for the larger silicone hose - Pete and the team have given design consideration to all of it.

Are you saying my spare Allisport Silicone Hoses will not fit, there is a larger one required ?

Hi All

I saw this thread and though it was originally about my intercooler fitting I see it has slid slightly so though I best answer a few of the many made comments and thoughts on various things.

Sorry to the OP for the detraction from the original question asked.

Bowler use 3" cat/dpf back on their st3 cars that have a turbo from me, this is ONLY on 90" cars the 110" has a standard diameter stainless centre pipe as their kit, Personally id not bother for the cost but its part of their package and how they have structured it for the Defender challenge dedicated to their tune style requirements. I know this as I do all their remap tuning albeit with a few differences they requested be added....

Originally Posted by Beery

Wonder how it compares to the Allisport given that its coated.
As Allisport state, any coating on the aluminium will impede heat transfer.

For this question it was also part of our testing (as well as much more also on many other main branded coolers),, see pictures.

Allisport intercooler coated the same as the BAS HI-FLOW and fitted with 2x Bosch 3 Bar Tmap sensors one at each side of the cooler measuring both Drop Pressure and Temperature on both sides of the core, this was done before and after coating.

The difference in temps between the coated and non coated at 16 meters/second air speed cooling it was no more when black than when silver. HOWEVER..... at slow off road/town speeds the black cooler radiated 2-3c more AWAY from the cooler than the silver one meaning black was more effective at slower speed ranges than a silver one.

The fine textured finish we have used was proven during testing to be more effective at catching the air cooling on the tank and core surface than a smooth finish which glides over the core and tanks, and so it aided in a better cooling surface when textured.

Originally Posted by AndyG

Are you saying my spare Allisport Silicone Hoses will not fit, there is a larger one required ?

NO any hoses will still fit....

Though we have made the pipe diameter slightly larger for a TIGHT fitting hose, we also made the pipes slightly more spaced out so that when a 6mm thick 5ply hoses is fitted to the intercooler, it can be fitted with ease without them catching on the radiator plastics or stopping you getting the clamps on easily which has been seen as a problem on other intercoolers.

EDIT.. Added a couple of CAD shots to show the area we made wider allowing for thicker pipe space and clamp clearance. We of course did the same both pipes of the cooler.

Originally Posted by 1nando

Clive have you considered a PWR intercooler?
I have one installed on my 2.2 which was done by Brice Davis automotive. I have run this brand intercooler on 2 drag cars and they are awesome. Made in Australia and excellent quality....just throwing it out there as an option

Which one do you have,, this one with the 55mm tubes or the larger looking one with 42mm tubes ?

I have the larger one's flow tests results.....

Originally Posted by clive22

Hi

I have a BAS 150 autobiography tune in my Puma 130. Very happy with it and the software.

Noticed they now have a new in house designed & built intercooler. Heat, in high summer, at least has been on my mind with this tune. Keeping temps down sounds is a real good idea especially with a small diesel engine pushing a laden 130 along.

This new intercooler looks the goods and sounds easier to fit than the Allisport one which sounded a bit hard to fit and had a few issues with hose clamps according to a few threads on here.

Interested in other people opinions.


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Clive

Back to the thread

Here are a few more CAD pictures of the instal and the tollerances we have taken into account for fitting that give good info, ill upload fitted pictures as I can take them for you to help you see how fitting is done.

I appreciate impartial results and customer feedback will help more and Im sure poeple will post their results and thoughts as they make fitment them selfs.

Kind Regards Pete

AC pipeand lower water pipe clearance.