Thread: Td5 Swivel and Wheel Bearing Advice?

youve got it apart, give it a bit of a birthday, especially since you're going to look at oil conversion.

you'll also want to look at converting the stake nuts to double nuts, while its apart get the rotors skimmed and replace the brake pads.

the swivels will be a case of dropping a shim out or replacing the railco bush but if the lube has been looked after in the hubs the the bearing will be ok as will the pins but if theres any rust I advocate a clean up of the pins, check it for roundness and lips then replace the bearing. it wont shim up correctly if you do that so order some spare shims when you get the swivel bearing.

Dont forget the bearings in the stub, to rotate the stub and look at doing a maxi flange conversion along with county CV's while you have it that far down IF theres any spline wear on the drive flange or the axle.

Can't really Top blknights advice but I will say I'm doing exactly the same as you are planning now except staying with grease.

If you're going to strip it that far do the whole job IMO. Bearings, seals, etc.

Thanks for the replies I must say I definitely agree with you on doing the whole job, was hoping I might get away with it as things are a bit tight cash wise atm but like I said its a long term plan so will be good knowing its all new and lovely for a good while to come

The rotors and pads had to be replaced for the roadworthy when I bought it so they will be fine with only 20k on them..

Whats involved with converting to the double nut hub locking system? Ive not actually seen the newer system in person to be honest but does sound like its worth changing. What will I need?

Per corner:

2x hub nuts
1x lock washer
1x special washer (should already have one?)


Ok just so I don't muck up and miss anything heres my shopping list!


For the rear:

4x wheel bearings
2x outer hub seals (RTC 3511)
4x hub nuts
2x lock washers
No axle seals for oil fed conversion

For the front:

4x wheel bearings
2x outer hub seals
4x hub nuts
2x lock washers
2x stub axle bearings
4x swivel bearings, part numbers? May as well replace.
2x swivel ball seals
2x inner axle seals
2x railco bushes??
?x spare shims
No intermediate axle seals, going to run CVs and bearings as one. Do
yon use one shot grease with this setup or an oil of some type?

Anything else? Brain isn't in gear right now, bloody flu


Yes there is some wear on the axle splines, Ive got just a cheap set of HD flanges on to help that and to get by for a while but do want to look at getting a full set of maybe Ashcrofts or Maxi half shafts and CVs, no pennies for those now though they will have to wait!

Whats the difference with the County CVs Blkinght?

ok, to do it in stages.

get the wheel bearings done and rotate the stub axle. When thats done the next bit can be done without disturbing them again.

for now pull shims out from under the top swivel pin, that will tighten up the ball joint play.

when you get all the bits sorted out for the CV replacement and swivel pin rebearing.


your parts list looks about right for each job.

The CV's for a county are better because they were from an era when things were built up to a standard as opposed to down to a cost.

Essentially County CV's are the same as maxi CV's

If you're doing the oil fed conversion then you dont need the gease in the CV but I do recommend pre lubing during assembly. I usually use a high moly grease but a single tube of one shot will do both CV's for prelube purposes.

Pack the wheel bearings with a high quality grease and its worth drilling a small hole in the stub axle between the bearing seats to promote oil flow. I also drill and tap the flange so a drain fill plug combo can be screwed in to allow top up, checking and draining of the bearing oil.

I'm thinking about doing this myself on a 2003 so very timely thread.
Where is the best place to source county cv's ?
And how to tell which is the best brand ?
Any idea on a rough price ?
Thanks in advance


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Id usually just ring MR automotive.

Im not sure if roverlord lists the heavy duty replacement stuff but your stock bearings, nuts, washers shims and seal you could easily grab from him.

I'd be surprised if the bearings needed changing.......

Right so with the newly risen possibility of heading up to western NSW for a while to work I've decided to do a full rebuild on the front hubs including Ashcroft CV's and halfshafts and a full rebuild of the rear hubs minus the halfshafts, they are an easy job later once I've got the money.
Yes its more cash then I should/wanted to throw at the rig just now but I hate the thought of having to strip the fronts down again in a few thousand for the axle replacements, and it will be great knowing its all been done!

Blknight, I'm a little confused sorry! If I'm going to oil fed bearings do I still grease them first? Pre lubing is a must I realise but does it matter mixing the two? Ive just always been under the impression its one or the other only but maybe thats not the case..

Also Ive been doing some more research and Ive heard mention of needing a different "spacer" and "snap ring" for the larger diameter of the 23 spline halfshafts? To prevent the halfshafts "floating"?

Or have I got my wires crossed?!