Thread: Review of (an idiots guide to) puma engine oil

I have ordered a 20L drum of Castrol Edge Professional A5 5W30. Castrol item number 3377780.

My reasoning is:
1) It's a 5W30 as recommended.
2) Meets Ford spec WSS-M2C913-C
3) Meets ACEA A5/B5 spec
4) And if it matters, it's a Castrol product, recommended by both Castrol for my non DPF vehicle, and ticks the boxes as far as the owners manual and workshop manual recommendations.

After speaking to the Castrol technical dept, it was said that the C1 spec oil generally used for vehicles fitted with a DPF would not be recommended for my vehicle.

Just a passing comment more than anything else...


*All Defender models in Australia are NON DPF.
*Dont be hung up on a particular brand, all oil blenders (thats any company that doesnt pull the crude out of the ground and refine it) source their base oil from the same oil companies.

*Any info from a sales rep should not be considered factual, their work history may have been 30 years as a sales person in the oil industry, but unlikely to be 30 years in oil chemistry or other scientific field.

*As with any car manufacturing corporation, Jaguar Land Rover have done a supply deal with an oil supply corporation, being in this case, Castrol (BP), it could have just as easily been.... Shell, Mobil, etc etc etc.

There is some good info on AULRO with regards to oils, some of which is sourced from factual information, others from people such as myself, that when it comes down to it, is just an opinion based on work experience.

When all said and done, the best thing a owner can do is to quite simply change the oil on a regular basis regardless of the brand. Regular being every 10,000kms.

Regards
Daz

My thoughts exactly.
It's definitely a case of splitting hairs when it comes to the 'right' product, and no use holding off on changing oil because of this alone. I guess we all just want the best for our vehicles, as the wrong choice can be catastrophic in an extreme case.

A customer of mine at work is a castrol dealer, and is willing to offer me competitive pricing, so this influenced my decision.

As toxic Avenger said, the engine manufacturer (not Land Rover) has only one standard.

WSS-M2C-913-C

No brands are mentioned.

Originally Posted by DazzaTD5

*Dont be hung up on a particular brand, all oil blenders (thats any company that doesnt pull the crude out of the ground and refine it) source their base oil from the same oil companies.

And to add onto that, there's only a handfull of suppliers for the additive packs as well, and often its the additive supplier who says that X additive pack blends with X base stock and that will meet X spec....

Originally Posted by ramblingboy42

As toxic Avenger said, the engine manufacturer (not Land Rover) has only one standard.

WSS-M2C-913-C

No brands are mentioned.

Sort of.
My owners manual says the required oil is "Castrol 5W30", and has a stonkin' big castrol logo on the page ( Lubricants and fluids section, page 96- Owners handbook, publication number LRL10 02 51 122).
The workshop manual specifies the oil spec:


But the word on the forums is that it appears that dealers may use other oils (which I trust meets the ford spec), but not the oil brand as per the owners manual.

This more likely ties into the wheeling and dealing between LR and Castrol when it comes to supply agreements for supply of oil to the engine manufacturing plant and scratching their back as far as trying to secure long term oil sales for the vehicle.

[QUOTE=Toxic_Avenger;2619936]Found this, showing some part numbers



Anyone know Where can I purchase this oil in Sydney

I presume any Castrol agent

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