What grease for MT82-LT230 coupling splines?

**POD** · 7th January 2017, 09:17 PM

Once my new splines are installed I won't be touching them until there's a very good reason to take the transfer case out. Stuff doing that every 40,000km.

**justinc** · 7th January 2017, 09:20 PM

Rick the way that puma transfer cases last it isn't really a service item, more of a regular replacement / repair item anyway😮😂

**rick130** · 7th January 2017, 09:26 PM

Originally Posted by justinc

Rick the way that puma transfer cases last it isn't really a service item, more of a regular replacement / repair item anyway😮😂

I'm still gobsmacked with those photo's you posted of the centre diffs.

If I get another Landy it'll be a Series 1.

**justinc** · 7th January 2017, 10:02 PM

Originally Posted by rick130

I'm still gobsmacked with those photo's you posted of the centre diffs.

If I get another Landy it'll be a Series 1.

Yes they are pretty disappointing. I've had lt230s last over 400k without any major repairs in previous models... just really surprised at these new ones🙁

**jimr1** · 8th January 2017, 12:17 AM

Originally Posted by justinc

Yes they are pretty disappointing. I've had lt230s last over 400k without any major repairs in previous models... just really surprised at these new ones🙁

I don't have any long term confidence in my gearbox , I'm only on 13,500 ks my gearbox is notchy so is my mates ! It works fine but just doesn't have a quality feel to it. I've been following posts about the transmission shaft and how they fail . I still have an older td5 as well , with r380 gearbox and that feels a lot better , plus it's done well over 300,000ks . What can you do ? Jim

**1nando** · 8th January 2017, 08:01 AM

Originally Posted by justinc

Rick the way that puma transfer cases last it isn't really a service item, more of a regular replacement / repair item anyway😮😂

Can this be remedied using an ashcroft centre atb? Does this solve the issue?

Sorry for hijak of thread, but im very curious to know how to proceed in strengthening my drivetrain

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**justinc** · 8th January 2017, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by 1nando

Can this be remedied using an ashcroft centre atb? Does this solve the issue?

Sorry for hijak of thread, but im very curious to know how to proceed in strengthening my drivetrain

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Ashcroft atb is one of the best ways to strengthen and improve the drivetrain behaviour in the Puma LT230. I've fitted half a dozen now and very impressed with the whole idea☺

**rick130** · 8th January 2017, 05:53 PM

Originally Posted by jimr1

I don't have any long term confidence in my gearbox , I'm only on 13,500 ks my gearbox is notchy so is my mates ! It works fine but just doesn't have a quality feel to it. I've been following posts about the transmission shaft and how they fail . I still have an older td5 as well , with r380 gearbox and that feels a lot better , plus it's done well over 300,000ks . What can you do ? Jim

I don't think there's an inherent problem with the MT82, IIRC there were a few little issues initially, but it sounds like they've been sorted.
They are used in the Ranger/BT50, Transit, and a variation is in the Mustang, and probably other Fords too, but they do feel ordinary in use.

**1nando** · 8th January 2017, 08:47 PM

If you hang around this forum long enough and believe everything that is written then you'd change everthing on a Puma. Everything from drive train to wiring.
Whats funny is that the bowler defenders are the most powerful defenders ever made and they run a completely standard drive train. They're tuned to produce 170hp and 450nm of torque and then thrashed around on rally courses. I read the articles and follow the youtube clips.
Whats even funnier is that they "shock load" more often then many on here would ever dream off, they jump over bumps and hills and land harshly and at speed and dont break cvs, diffs, gearboxes etc like everyone on here leads us to believe.
What i believe is that the puma has a potential set up issue with the rear diff and possibly the transfer case (2 of jc's opinions, i agree with) other than that people are changing things because "it might break", "its weak", "everything after a 200tdi is s...t". I personally have been following the blog of a guy who has pretty much travelled around the world in his puma and hasnt had a drivetrain issue other than his rear axles and flanges wearing out.
The bowler defenders get punished, thrashed and the standard drivetrain lasts fine, yet people pay good money for a fit for purpose vehicle and then spend 25-50% of the purcahse price changing everthing.

There are people on this site who have been many places in this great country, towing not towing, with a standard drivetrain with no issues.

My 3 cents on the matter (3 not 2, long rant)

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**rick130** · 8th January 2017, 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by 1nando

If you hang around this forum long enough and believe everything that is written then you'd change everthing on a Puma. Everything from drive train to wiring.
Whats funny is that the bowler defenders are the most powerful defenders ever made and they run a completely standard drive train. They're tuned to produce 170hp and 450nm of torque and then thrashed around on rally courses. I read the articles and follow the youtube clips.
Whats even funnier is that they "shock load" more often then many on here would ever dream off, they jump over bumps and hills and land harshly and at speed and dont break cvs, diffs, gearboxes etc like everyone on here leads us to believe.
What i believe is that the puma has a potential set up issue with the rear diff and possibly the transfer case (2 of jc's opinions, i agree with) other than that people are changing things because "it might break", "its weak", "everything after a 200tdi is s...t". I personally have been following the blog of a guy who has pretty much travelled around the world in his puma and hasnt had a drivetrain issue other than his rear axles and flanges wearing out.
The bowler defenders get punished, thrashed and the standard drivetrain lasts fine, yet people pay good money for a fit for purpose vehicle and then spend 25-50% of the purcahse price changing everthing.

There are people on this site who have been many places in this great country, towing not towing, with a standard drivetrain with no issues.

My 3 cents on the matter (3 not 2, long rant)

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Low range off road with larger than standard diameter tyres puts more load through the drivetrain than high speed stuff.

It's simple torque multiplication.

A few of us on here are ex-racers, most race diffs are spiral/bevel, not hypoid as they consume less power, run cooler and often it's a simple case of centrelines lining up in transaxles.
Eg, A Rover centre is no where near as strong as a Hypoid CWP, even the relatively small 8" Toyota high pinion is a huge improvement over a Rover (as long as you don't give it a bootfull in low range/reverse

)

What runs trouble free in high speed/low torque (relative) applications can be destroyed in two minutes of low speed/high torque/high shock load situations.

What gets on the goat of the old timers is that over the years the drivetrains have been 'weakened' compared to what was standard production in the late eighties.
Of course not everyone punishes stuff, if you're only touring the standard driveline is mostly fine, but a lot of things have gone backwards badly in the last decade or so, especially QC.

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