Thread: Puma Engine broken and bleeding with missfire and choofing

Originally Posted by 1nando

Ford Duratorq- 2.2l TDCI

They say that the over fueling issue in the 2.2 is not due to a faulty injector but rather the ecu programing.
I think all the cases of a blown 2.2 engine have been standard engines on standard tunes. I wonder if having a remap resolves this potential issue?
I would also argue that as the engine gets older in its life that the egr would more than likely start to affect sensors (making them dirty) like the air flow sensor etc and throw the computer programing out and leed to these over fueling situations, just a thought.

When I had damage to the fuel system (injectors and pump) from water, the fuel usage went from 10ish l/100 to 14ish l/100, this usage agreed with the fact that the pump couldn't pump enough fuel to keep the fuel pressure high enough. Based on my experience it was a faulty injector / injectors. I think what saved me from a similar fate was the fact that all of the injectors went, thus I got an engine fault. Although this doesn't disprove the ECU theory.

BTW the injectors / pump in the 2.2 are Seimens rather than Denso. Well at least mine are.

If I were looking at pushing LRA / ACCC, I'd be talking about the lack of sufficient filter / water trap / water alarm in the fuel system that leads to injector failure, that leads to ....

Originally Posted by TimNZ

I would say that would largely depend on the remap Mick, a "proper" remap from the likes of Alive or BAS is worlds apart from the plug in units in terms of safety for your engine.

Cheers,

I've real life egt results to back this up. I reckon my egts would be less than a standard tune puma whilst making more power not to mention better economy also.

This is the response I got back from LRA, it appears now that they believe that any 3rd party who services your vehicle does or not or can not prove thart the vehicle has been serviced with LR requirements.
Beware that this is a cop out for LRA.

"Due to the nature of your comments, we have taken the opportunity to look into your case and do some research with Lennock Land Rover. The decision was taken on the fact despite the warranty was out, no service history was found though our network retailer which makes it hard to accede to Goodwill request.

Unfortunately we cannot confirm that all the services and repairs performed by a third party is conformed with Jaguar Land Rover requirements. With this lack of information, Jaguar Land Rover cannot take responsi bility even under warranty when major failure occurs as it is recommended to have the vehicle serviced by our approved retailer."

So basically if you get a 3rd party to service your vehicle and somthing goes wrong, it is up to you to prove that it has been serviced in accordance to LR specifications.

That is very sad to hear mate.
Take on Rick130`s advice
Best of luck dont give up and fight to the bitter end , What have you got to lose .

Originally Posted by ozrob

This is the response I got back from LRA, it appears now that they believe that any 3rd party who services your vehicle does or not or can not prove thart the vehicle has been serviced with LR requirements.
Beware that this is a cop out for LRA.

"Due to the nature of your comments, we have taken the opportunity to look into your case and do some research with Lennock Land Rover. The decision was taken on the fact despite the warranty was out, no service history was found though our network retailer which makes it hard to accede to Goodwill request.

Unfortunately we cannot confirm that all the services and repairs performed by a third party is conformed with Jaguar Land Rover requirements. With this lack of information, Jaguar Land Rover cannot take responsi bility even under warranty when major failure occurs as it is recommended to have the vehicle serviced by our approved retailer."

So basically if you get a 3rd party to service your vehicle and somthing goes wrong, it is up to you to prove that it has been serviced in accordance to LR specifications.

You need to consult a lawyer now. That is a cop out. If the servicing was done by a qualified licensed mechanic, they still have an obligation to stand by their product.
In my opinion they only use this cop out to keep independents out of the market.

I agree with Billy. Of course they're going to deny responsibility. I would too. You need to consult a lawyer who specialises in consumer law and have him draft a letter of demand.

LRA have taken no consideration that:

• I have been a qualified mechanic for 30 years
• Qualifed Land Rover Mechanic with the Army for 25 years
• Have been a licenced mechanic which enables me to work in industry for 15 years

So i have some idea on what is required to service a bloody Defender......Cop out indeed....