Thread: What sort of kms can one expect from the Puma 2.4/2.2 engines?

No CRD engine will be as reliable or as long lived as an older engine like a 200/300tdi or td5. However, some are better than others. Your toyota engine should last a while yet, while a puma engine probably won't be as reliable. AS always though, preventative maintenance is key. I've seen d4d's die with less than 70 000km and transit's with 400 000km on the original engine. It all depends

Plenty of transits on carsales with 250k plus kms wjth the puma engine. The puma engines have been known to last hundreds of thousands of kms in tranists, mondeos and i have no doubt the same in the dedender.

They don't call em d4dead for nothing....
If the 4cylinder d4d had a Nissan badge in front of it it would be known as grenade mkII

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Originally Posted by REDTD5110

No CRD engine will be as reliable or as long lived as an older engine like a 200/300tdi or td5. However, some are better than others. Your toyota engine should last a while yet, while a puma engine probably won't be as reliable. AS always though, preventative maintenance is key. I've seen d4d's die with less than 70 000km and transit's with 400 000km on the original engine. It all depends

I'd be hoping for the later - 400000kms+ but I assume because of the numerous Transits, etc that run the puma engine, that a replacement engine should be reasonable in price.... I assume it would be cheaper than the toyota d4d replacement?

I'd assume either engine would be easy to find. Plenty of both are around. Price wise I have no idea.

The December 2010 Transit I have for work has just hit 215,000 km. It has the 2.4 engine. Overall it has been reliable. Still has the original EGR. The serpentine belt lasts 100,000 Km and needs to be replaced which takes 10 minutes. Crank shaft pulley died at 130,00 km. Rubber bonding disintegrated. Not cheap but not too hard to replace.

The inlet manifold gasket developed a leak which caused a few error codes and rough running until replaced. The Ford dealer was going to replace the turbo and/or injectors (fault codes logged in system) but I pointed out that the occasional rough running had only been happening since the leak was evident. 20,000 km later, everything has been fine with rough running resolved. It sometimes throws a turbo under boost/over boost code but I just clear it and continue on. Probably happens every 10,000km. I used to worry but have now got used to it. Oil is changed every 15,000km as per service schedule. Luckily my Defender does not eat brakes like my Transit. I don't have to add oil and fuel consumption is consistently 10.8l/100km for a LWB high roof Transit weighing in at 3.2t. Better than my 2.2 Defender!

I will keep an eye on my Defender coolant hoses (there are lots of them) as the Transit hoses wear on each other, even keeping in mind the vehicle drives on 100% bitumen. Once again, I had to point this out to the dealer and ask for a number of them to be changed otherwise I might have had a blown engine if the hoses had burst. Everything is so squashed in around the engine bay that this type of wear is almost a certainty.

Originally Posted by 4wheeler

The December 2010 Transit I have for work has just hit 215,000 km. It has the 2.4 engine. Overall it has been reliable. Still has the original EGR. The serpentine belt lasts 100,000 Km and needs to be replaced which takes 10 minutes. Crank shaft pulley died at 130,00 km. Rubber bonding disintegrated. Not cheap but not too hard to replace.

The inlet manifold gasket developed a leak which caused a few error codes and rough running until replaced. The Ford dealer was going to replace the turbo and/or injectors (fault codes logged in system) but I pointed out that the occasional rough running had only been happening since the leak was evident. 20,000 km later, everything has been fine with rough running resolved. It sometimes throws a turbo under boost/over boost code but I just clear it and continue on. Probably happens every 10,000km. I used to worry but have now got used to it. Oil is changed every 15,000km as per service schedule. Luckily my Defender does not eat brakes like my Transit. I don't have to add oil and fuel consumption is consistently 10.8l/100km for a LWB high roof Transit weighing in at 3.2t. Better than my 2.2 Defender!

I will keep an eye on my Defender coolant hoses (there are lots of them) as the Transit hoses wear on each other, even keeping in mind the vehicle drives on 100% bitumen. Once again, I had to point this out to the dealer and ask for a number of them to be changed otherwise I might have had a blown engine if the hoses had burst. Everything is so squashed in around the engine bay that this type of wear is almost a certainty.

Cheers for that.... 215,000kms is good & some good info to keep in mind.... but still that sort of kms is still fairly young for a diesel. By the time I get around to afford to buy one, there's a good chance that it will be well and truly north of the 200,000km mark, so does anyone have higher kms on their pumas?? +300,000kms??

It will last longer than the vehicle. Pat