Choosing the RIGHT VEHICLE for Overlanding Video - Interesting....

**Robmacca** · 22nd November 2017, 05:12 AM

Guys, I sat down and watched this video last night from Andrew St Pierre White about what makes a good Overlanding Touring Vehicle and what "Brand" of vehicles to use. Knowing that he had a long history with LR in his early days but now mainly driving Toyotas, I thought it would be interesting to hear his viewpoint. For me, he makes some interesting points, especially when it comes to reliability and people's take on "Preventative Maintenance" vs Reliability. I remember reading about this within a post on here about this exact topic and it generated some interesting comments....

Anyways..... I thought it would be interesting to hear others viewpoints on what they think of his comments, etc... so, have a watch and post up your thoughts on what he says.....

**Robmacca** · 22nd November 2017, 05:15 AM

Also, if I owned that new model Puma that he talks about in the Video with the oil leak, I too would be VERY annoyed and disappointed

**seaweed** · 22nd November 2017, 08:44 AM

Originally Posted by Robmacca

Also, if I owned that new model Puma that he talks about in the Video with the oil leak, I too would be VERY annoyed and disappointed

The oil on the floor appears to be very dark in colour for just 30 kilometres.

**manic** · 22nd November 2017, 08:45 AM

Air suspension - uh oh

Heard of a few near new pumas with rear crank seal leaks. Whos to blame, land rover or ford?

**Greg4427** · 22nd November 2017, 10:47 AM

Well I had a 2014 Defender 90 which suffered a leaky rear main oil seal. Sorted under warranty, no big deal. But now have a 2016 Defender 110 (20,000 kms) with no problems at all

**Greg4427** · 22nd November 2017, 10:48 AM

Oops, by the way, pretty interesting video. I’ve seen a few of his previously and enjoyed them. Good perspective

**trout1105** · 22nd November 2017, 11:32 AM

I found that video to be very interesting and as far as I am concerned Andrew was 110% on the money as far as Landrover's and their owners are concerned

Has comment that "If you love working on your truck then a Landrover is for you" is on the money along with the comment that air suspension is a serious weak link in a 4WD.
It was interesting that after he had discounted the Discovery as a touring vehicle he said that the D1 and even the D2 was a good choice because of the parts availability etc.
The SLS on my own D2a caused me heaps of grief many times and the last straw was when I had to travel about 500k's home on the bump stops one trip so I did the spring conversion and haven't had ANY problems with the suspension in the last 40,000K's.
Yes I have lost some of the comfort But I now still have a very nice truck without the "Weak Link" of air suspension to let me down.
His comment that if you own a Landrover be prepared to spend a fair bit of time and money keeping it up and running, I couldn't agree with him more.
Owing to the PO's lack of maintenance and servicing I have spent thousands of dollars and much time getting my D2a up to scratch and to a point where I am happy to take her anywhere.
His comments on Toyota's is also spot on as I have owned a few Hilux's and we still have a 2006 twin cab and YES they are bloody reliable BUT would I want to drive one thousands of K's on and off road instead of my Disco, NOT a Bloody chance.

**Robmacca** · 22nd November 2017, 08:03 PM

Originally Posted by manic

Air suspension - uh oh

Heard of a few near new pumas with rear crank seal leaks. Whos to blame, land rover or ford?

I didn't realise this was a problem with Pumas.... is there a particular that it is more common with ??

**Landy Smurf** · 22nd November 2017, 09:13 PM

Interesting watch. I enjoy his videos as he tries not to be biased.

**Tins** · 22nd November 2017, 09:32 PM

Andrew had a long history with LRs, particularly RRs. As a motoring journo though, he fell out with them over a review he wrote re the traction controlled D2s. LR refused to talk to him, or lend him cars for review after that, which seemed to him ( and me ) to be petty and churlish. Otherwise, he has always had a soft for the cars themselves.

Both he and Paul have been doing overlanding, as he calls it, for decades. His vids are always interesting and well done. I don't always agree, but why would I? But, he and Paul have vast experience with building what I prefer to call outback touring vehicles, mainly in Africa, where, apart from the animals, conditions can be quite similar to here. In Africa it is quite easy to hire a completely set up vehicle for a week or a year of "overlanding", and Paul has been involved in that.

I like Andrew's stuff so much I am a Patreon. But you don't need to be. His utoob channel, 4Xoverland is well worth a visit. To all you budding videographers, he also offers courses in filming and editing. He was a professional film editor, and uses his skills in that field to help him with his utoob stuff, and to teach others. His roots are from here. I'm glad he came home.

BTW, the review he wrote on the TC D2s was correct in every way, in my view.

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