Thread: Choosing the RIGHT VEHICLE for Overlanding Video - Interesting....

Originally Posted by weeds

It’s a public forum, it encourages member to voice the opinions, views, thoughts, experiences.....don’t look if you are easily offended

We are currently planning our overland trip, it will be either be...ship defender into the bottom of South Africa or into Germany.......I will be in a defender running air suspension and have zero overland experience.........but I reckon we will do just fine.

If I took only his views and suggestion I wouldn’t be going........I reckon tapping into 100’s and 100’s of other people experience gives one a better heads up.

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Who said I was offended? It was a simple question. That is all.

Originally Posted by 1nando

I said it was my opinion, not fact. My opinion is based on what i see. Andrew has always tried different makes and different vehciles. This is his second consecutive troopy and from i can see he has talked about it quiet a bit. To me it sounds like John laws "cash for comments" back in the day.
I agree he has done more travelling than i will ever do in my life time however im still allowed to have an opinion. As for only seeing old toyotas; what a load of sh$t. There are countries in Africa ie Morocco where there is nothing but old land rovers driving around everywhere. If you listen carefuly there is a lot of Toyota propaganda being thrown around in his video.
A man who accepts sponsorships from BFG, Alucab, ARB will also more than likely accommodate some hand outs from a vehcile manufacturer, the idea is not that far fetched.

Wouldn't it be nice if people read what was posted and responded to that, rather than to some fantasy of their own? Where did I suggest that you could not have your own opinion? You need to know, though, that unsubstantiated allegations may not go unchallenged.

Originally Posted by johntins

Wouldn't it be nice if people read what was posted and responded to that, rather than to some fantasy of their own? Where did I suggest that you could not have your own opinion? You need to know, though, that unsubstantiated allegations may not go unchallenged.

Agreed. However the day i take a journalist's word as gospel and believe that he has no bias, agenda or underlying interests will be the day i win the lotto.

I love watching Andrews videos not becuase of the vehicle he drives but becuase of the effort he puts into his editing and the locations he travels to. I'm jealous of the destinataions he travels to and i wish i had his job. Thats what i love. His vehicle ranting isn't important to me.

A journalist without a bias is a man with no income!

Originally Posted by 1nando

Agreed. However the day i take a journalist's word as gospel and believe that he has no bias, agenda or underlying interests will be the day i win the lotto.

I love watching Andrews videos not becuase of the vehicle he drives but becuase of the effort he puts into his editing and the locations he travels to. I'm jealous of the destinataions he travels to and i wish i had his job. Thats what i love. His vehicle ranting isn't important to me.

A journalist without a bias is a man with no income!

I would counter that by referring you to the writings of one Jeremy Clarkson. He writes what he thinks. That is precisely the attitude that got Andrew into so much **** ( testing swear filter here ) with LR. He was a 4WD motoring journo with a great deal of cred in South Africa. LR lent him a D2 with the new fangled TC. He wrote what he thought, that the TC was garbage, LR did NOT like that.

My question is: would you, or anyone else here, prefer that he wrote what he thought ( he was right, BTW, anyone with a D2 knows it ), or should he have been a LR sycophant? I know where I am on this.

I don't care who likes him or who doesn't. Never have. I DO care, however, when people who haven't bothered to do any sort of research post things that they have just in fact made up.

I never take anyone's word as gospel, 1nando. Andrew posts some things I consider to be nonsense, but I won't write off the opinion of a bloke who has done 100 times as much as I have because of some unfounded, jealous opinion I have, which seems to be a bit of a theme here. Note: I am not referring to you.

Andrew had a long relationship with LR cars. Now, he has a Troopy. Can anyone tell me what NEW car he could have bought to fit out the way he did that wasn't a Troopy? No?

Originally Posted by johntins

I would counter that by referring you to the writings of one Jeremy Clarkson. He writes what he thinks. That is precisely the attitude that got Andrew into so much **** ( testing swear filter here ) with LR. He was a 4WD motoring journo with a great deal of cred in South Africa. LR lent him a D2 with the new fangled TC. He wrote what he thought, that the TC was garbage, LR did NOT like that.

My question is: would you, or anyone else here, prefer that he wrote what he thought ( he was right, BTW, anyone with a D2 knows it ), or should he have been a LR sycophant? I know where I am on this.

I don't care who likes him or who doesn't. Never have. I DO care, however, when people who haven't bothered to do any sort of research post things that they have just in fact made up.

I never take anyone's word as gospel, 1nando. Andrew posts some things I consider to be nonsense, but I won't write off the opinion of a bloke who has done 100 times as much as I have because of some unfounded, jealous opinion I have, which seems to be a bit of a theme here. Note: I am not referring to you.

Andrew had a long relationship with LR cars. Now, he has a Troopy. Can anyone tell me what NEW car he could have bought to fit out the way he did that wasn't a Troopy? No?

John: i get your point, honestly i do and for the record I've followed Andrew's you tube channel for years and pretty much watched all his videos.

My idea of Andrew isn't a result of his opinion on LR, Toyota, Nissan or whatever the make may be but rather the fact that he's a journalist and many a time has contradicted himself. He gets paid to talk about prodcuts, if he doesn't he gets no pay cheque.
His new troopy and the set up in it would be worth well over $130k. Manufactures would expect a "comments for cash" return on their investment.
He claims to have paid for the troopy, id believe it if i saw his bank balance before and after purchase.
Toyota is one of the worst manufacturers when it comes to hiding the truth. Google Toyota reliablity and tell me what you find? The answer is nothing. Toyota takes legal action against anyone who makes an effort to get the truth out, defamatory comments are unacceptable and all efforts are made to keep the Toyota brand untarnished.

Toyota spends a lot promoting propaganda and in MY OPINION Andrew is just another puppet.

Personally I enjoy watching Andrews YouTube offerings and i respect his opinions.
He doesn't get it right all the time and sometimes I don't agree with him But in most cases he is "Spot On".
I also enjoy watchig Ronny Dahl fron 4 wheeling in WA who gets his quids via subsriptions not corperate sponsorship.
I don't know for certain that Andrew is sponsered by Toyota and I very much doubt that anyone here knows thar for a fact either so making making unfounded assumptions about a corporate sponsered bias I find a bit Odd.

Originally Posted by karlz

He is wrong about air suspension.

1. Airbags are very tough and unlikely to puncture, not impossible, but unlikely, probably same risk as a broken coil, carry spare airbags is lighter than coils.
2. Hose leak is higher, and this can be repaired with a $10 dollar part which joins the hoses. I used to carry 2 with me in my P38.
3. Air-compressor fails possible, and sensors can be knocked out of sync or busted, the remedy is to install a manual override system which you can pump up with a bike pump if needed.

I'd prefer airbags in my defender than coils.

100% agree. There is a reason Aus heavy vehicle transport is dominated by air suspension. It is reliable. An air spring, with similar characteristics to a tyre which is in constant contact with a variable hard mass, is not going to have the same abrasion/leak risk as was suggested.

I went from 110 with coils to EAS in the L322 RRV. While coils are good, after 3 years in the RRV no question, EAS is better. EAS has come a long way since the classic RR and P38 and D2.

Originally Posted by ozscott

Mate you can love air bags AND admit that coils are more reliable. It's not really an arguable point. Broken coil. Never seen a vehicle let down by that but have seen a few Land Rovers let down by air suspension bags and components.

Cheers

Yep I’ve seen a few broken coils in Aus.