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  1. 23rd January 2018, 09:50 PM #11
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    Ford derived engine. The current 2.2 and (five cyl) 3.2 are indeed named "Puma". The 2.4 from the same family was/is also referred to by that name. I recall when we made the call to switch from the 2.4 to 2.2 on Ranger, long before it saw production... actually before we had built representative prototypes... The 2.4 and 2.2 are highly related but obviously not exactly identical. The 2.2 has quite a few upgrades/changes/development over the older 2.4. Then there are the 'generations' within that. I think the MY18 Puma family goes from Gen3 to Gen3.5, at least where a legacy engine isn't required or retained. I'm not familiar with the "Cougar" name in this context so can't comment on that if it is a codename.
    Just like the later/current V6 and V8 diesels are "Lion" (again linked to Ford, but slightly differently). The engine family gets a name, then there are different variants within that family, and generational upgrades also.
    Most engine families have names, from any manufacturer. 'Astron' is one old example from Mitsubishi...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoClax View Post
    Just like the later/current V6 and V8 diesels are "Lion" (again linked to Ford, but slightly differently). The engine family gets a name, then there are different variants within that family, and generational upgrades also.
    Most engine families have names, from any manufacturer. 'Astron' is one old example from Mitsubishi...
    Which is why Mike mentioned 'Storm' for the TD5, and the 200/300Tdi's were 'Gemini'.

    An old mate was an engineer with JRA in the eighties and later a consulting engineer in the nineties and before and just after the TD5 was released he always referred to it as the 5 cylinder 'Storm'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danjeffery View Post
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    No no no.....Both 2.4 and 2.2 are code named puma

    That said, I still think it's a good idea to call 2.2 cougar as it's smaller and more refined.....
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    Our 2010 110 has a sticker on the chassis which says 'Puma"..... so is it the engine, chassis or just a Ford name which covers the whole thing? I neither know nor are really as it's a good vehicle generally.
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    I was just out for a fang in my storm and noticed I was being chased by a cougar or puma. Couldn't tell in my rear vision mirror.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ATH View Post
    Our 2010 110 has a sticker on the chassis which says 'Puma"..... so is it the engine, chassis or just a Ford name which covers the whole thing? I neither know nor are really as it's a good vehicle generally.
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    Where abouts is the sticker?
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  8. 24th January 2018, 11:13 AM #18
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    Spurious claims. Funny. Of course all tdci Defenders are Pumas.
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  9. 24th January 2018, 05:04 PM #19
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    Our 2010 110 has a sticker on the chassis which says 'Puma"..... so is it the engine, chassis or just a Ford name which covers the whole thing? I neither know nor are really as it's a good vehicle generally.
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    Both... the chassis is set for Tdci engines and box.
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  10. 24th January 2018, 07:12 PM #20
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    shame we never got to call them Icebergs............
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