Reply With Quotecheck your earth cables....
do you wait for the heater light to go out?
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SubscriberMy ute used to roar into life on the second 'rev' of the starter motor.
Now it takes 7 or 8 times before the engine kicks into life.
Seems to be a recent development.
Where should I even begin trying to track down the cause...?
It's not broken. It's "Carbon Neutral".
gone
1993 Defender 110 ute "Doris"
1994 Range Rover Vogue LSE "The Luxo-Barge"
1994 Defender 130 HCPU "Rolly"
1996 Discovery 1
current
1995 Defender 130 HCPU and Suzuki GSX1400
SysAdmin (Owner)
check your earth cables....
do you wait for the heater light to go out?
2007 Discovery 3 SE7 TDV6 2.7
2012 SZ Territory TX 2.7 TDCi
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ForumSage
SupporterIt doesn't seem to make any difference to mine whether I wait for the heater light to go out or not.
What does seem to make a difference is the age of the battery. When I have an old, dying battery, it seems to need to turn over a bit more.
My guess is that when it turns over very quickly, there is less loss of compression. When it turns more slowly, there is time for a tiny bit of leakage.
I don't know if it is enough to be significant.
1973 Series III LWB 1983 - 2006
1998 300 Tdi Defender Trayback 2006 - often fitted with a Trayon slide-on camper.
YarnMaster
Ditto!
Master
Last time mine did that, it was the lift pump...
Wizard
SupporterAs said above sounds electrical - how old is your battery? Also check power cables to starter, positive and negative connections on battery plus earth connection on chassis/gearbox mount (under battery compartment)
Also check the wire that goes to the fuel shut off solenoid on the back of the fuel pump. I have to recrimp the connector on mine as it was giving me intermittent starting (engine would crank over but not fire)
Andrew
1998 Landrover Defender 300Tdi 130 HCPU Expedition
1972 Peugeot 504 Sedan - Daily Driver
Major Part of the Heart and Soul of AULRO
SubscriberThanks - it shouldn't be the battery as that is relatively new.
I'll check out the other 'lecky stuff.
I know NOTHING about lift pumps....
Inc - heater light ? ha ha that'd be the last thing in our climate. I wouldn't be at all surprised if Tdi engines would start without functioning glowplugs
It's not broken. It's "Carbon Neutral".
gone
1993 Defender 110 ute "Doris"
1994 Range Rover Vogue LSE "The Luxo-Barge"
1994 Defender 130 HCPU "Rolly"
1996 Discovery 1
current
1995 Defender 130 HCPU and Suzuki GSX1400
Swaggie
I had the smallest crack in one of the plastic fuel lines......it got progressively worse and when it affect actual driving I eventually found it.
Master
yep mine sounded electrical, checked everything as all have stated, was the lift pump... just something to consider.Originally Posted by 86mud
Vlad, its the little in line pump you would normally hand prime your injector pump with, they wear out/fail easily but will still start and run when faulty and can cause what you are describing.
SysAdmin (Owner)
thats what i thought till i actually did the procedure and it surprised me how much easier some of them start.
the wife's 300TDi starts much better doing it
no so much mine but it does make a difference
hers has 380000 klms on it mine 480000 klms
2007 Discovery 3 SE7 TDV6 2.7
2012 SZ Territory TX 2.7 TDCi
"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- a warning from Adolf Hitler
"If you don't have a sense of humour, you probably don't have any sense at all!" -- a wise observation by someone else
'If everyone colludes in believing that war is the norm, nobody will recognize the imperative of peace." -- Anne Deveson
“What you leave behind is not what is engraved in stone monuments, but what is woven into the lives of others.” - Pericles
"We can ignore reality, but we cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.” – Ayn Rand
"The happiness of your life depends upon the quality of your thoughts." Marcus Aurelius
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