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  1. 24th January 2018, 04:13 PM #1
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    Slower starting - 300Tdi

    My ute used to roar into life on the second 'rev' of the starter motor.
    Now it takes 7 or 8 times before the engine kicks into life.
    Seems to be a recent development.

    Where should I even begin trying to track down the cause...?
    It's not broken. It's "Carbon Neutral".


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    check your earth cables....

    do you wait for the heater light to go out?
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    It doesn't seem to make any difference to mine whether I wait for the heater light to go out or not.

    What does seem to make a difference is the age of the battery. When I have an old, dying battery, it seems to need to turn over a bit more.

    My guess is that when it turns over very quickly, there is less loss of compression. When it turns more slowly, there is time for a tiny bit of leakage.

    I don't know if it is enough to be significant.

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    Ditto!
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    Last time mine did that, it was the lift pump...
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    As said above sounds electrical - how old is your battery? Also check power cables to starter, positive and negative connections on battery plus earth connection on chassis/gearbox mount (under battery compartment)

    Also check the wire that goes to the fuel shut off solenoid on the back of the fuel pump. I have to recrimp the connector on mine as it was giving me intermittent starting (engine would crank over but not fire)
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    Thanks - it shouldn't be the battery as that is relatively new.

    I'll check out the other 'lecky stuff.

    I know NOTHING about lift pumps....

    Inc - heater light ? ha ha that'd be the last thing in our climate. I wouldn't be at all surprised if Tdi engines would start without functioning glowplugs
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    I had the smallest crack in one of the plastic fuel lines......it got progressively worse and when it affect actual driving I eventually found it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 86mud View Post
    As said above sounds electrical - how old is your battery? Also check power cables to starter, positive and negative connections on battery plus earth connection on chassis/gearbox mount (under battery compartment)

    Also check the wire that goes to the fuel shut off solenoid on the back of the fuel pump. I have to recrimp the connector on mine as it was giving me intermittent starting (engine would crank over but not fire)
    yep mine sounded electrical, checked everything as all have stated, was the lift pump... just something to consider.

    Vlad, its the little in line pump you would normally hand prime your injector pump with, they wear out/fail easily but will still start and run when faulty and can cause what you are describing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VladTepes View Post
    Inc - heater light ? ha ha that'd be the last thing in our climate. I wouldn't be at all surprised if Tdi engines would start without functioning glowplugs
    thats what i thought till i actually did the procedure and it surprised me how much easier some of them start.

    the wife's 300TDi starts much better doing it

    no so much mine but it does make a difference

    hers has 380000 klms on it mine 480000 klms
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