ChatterBox
From my experience in addition to the mentioned fitment variations from factory.
Re: articulation reduction with swaybars.
IMO Perspective needs to be had here.
Any concerns about reduced articulation should be considered against any suspension mods and serious regular low range work. Ive watched some spend poorly on suspension choice and remove swaybars only to achieve the same level of articulation as the original suspension with swaybars. But it looked cool a few inches taller.
For the most part IMO 95% of 4wd in any make would be lucky to see more than 100km of genuine low range and max articulation in their lifetime and for most folks, concerns about articulation loss are typically never realised, however, some owners feel more confident by having removed swaybars or fitting disconnects according to their planned use.
So as already mentioned unless hard core all the time (which isnt typical for even remote travel around the country) sway bar removal or disconnects isnt worthwhile for most vehicles.
Since the question was asked about fitting swaybars.
Most important, as already mentioned, make sure shocks and springs are suited for intended main purpose and in good condition as the first priority.
If you still arent happy then fit the bars.
If at all worried about articulation leave them off.
At the end of the day its always a compromise if you want the vehicle to perform brilliantly on either end of the spectrum.
Master
Sway bars are active almost all of the time, increasing the stiffness and harshness of the ride. The only comfort benefit to be had from them is when the wheels on both sides of the vehicle strike a bump or hollow of the same magnitude and duration, at the same time, for example, when hitting a speed bump or spoon drain dead on.
Master
At the end of the day the best thing for most offroaders who do both on road and off road is to have mild thickness swaybars, with or without disconnects.
The absence of swaybars typically requires springs that are too stiff in double bump, and thick swaybars typically create too many discomfort and lack of flex issues.
OldBushie
Got any plans?Originally Posted by Red90
I did make my own disconnects from ideas off the interweb, lost them both within 15min of driving.
Same as this pic except thicker washer and welded on, guessing the cotter pin snapped.
Oh and i'm not cheap, just can't justify $2000 for sway bars
Master
The function sway bar is to reduce body roll but also it can be used to tune steering.
MY puma defender comes with both front and rear sway bar. The front sway bar is significantly stronger than the rear. These produces understeering.I removed both sway bars and the under steer gets a bit better....
As mentioned away bar is to reduce body roll but the cons is that it connects both wheels. When driving on gravel road with potholes, the sway bar will transmit the hit on one wheel to the other and produce a bit of a waddling movement like a crab/penguin, which is very scary at high speed...
I remove both away bars and now I can drive over potoles at high speed comfortably.......(probably at around 80km/h
Yes an affordable sway bar disconnect would be nice
Cheers
Master
Just to add, if both wheels will hit sped bump/pothole, the sway bar won't produce the waddling effect but only when one wheel hit bump/pothole. Because the sway bar will in effect compress one spring
Master
If you drive like an old lady you have the option of soft coils and stiffer swaybars, because you are less likely to bottom the suspension.
If you drive hard over undulating terrain you need firmer coils to prevent bottoming, and because of the stiffer coils can run softer swaybars.
ForumSage
What’s wrong with some body roll? I never had a problem with my stock 82 RRC
Master
Range Rover Classic rollover - YouTube
Wizard
Looks like the drivers intention was to roll it for TV, not to avoid the car. He went out wide and then whipped it back masterfully into a roll. Even if that rrc had double HD sway bars he could still roll it with that exact same move. There was so much grip! The sidewalls on those bouncing balloon tyres would have been rolling away from the rim.
I suppose no way to know if the rrc in that vid had sway bars.
It would be interesting to see how much influence tyre profile and pressures would have on this test.
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