Thread: Defender vs Tojo 70

Originally Posted by LRJim

Jeez that sounds like great town to visit....
What I don't get is the Aussie love for Toyota's, gotta have a cruiser to be dinki di when considering the japs tried to bomb us several times in ww2 I'm surprised they didn't boycott them. Not why I dislike Toyota but something to think about....

They DID actually bomb us! 250 people died and over 400 were injured in the 63 bombing raids on Darwin between February 1942 and November 1943, with most of the casualties occurring in the first two raids on 19 February '42.

88 civilian and military personnel were killed in March '42 when 9 Zero fighters strafed the town of Broome.

Townsville fared a bit better - 3 bombing raids late in July '42 all missed the town , with the only damage being one bomb which landed in a coconut plantation at a research station.

Mossman was bombed 31 July '42, with one bomb landing near a house, and injuring a child.

My Dad wouldn't allow anything Japanese in the house, or any Japanese or German cars in the driveway.

Originally Posted by donh54

They DID actually bomb us! 250 people died and over 400 were injured in the 63 bombing raids on Darwin between February 1942 and November 1943, with most of the casualties occurring in the first two raids on 19 February '42.

88 civilian and military personnel were killed in March '42 when 9 Zero fighters strafed the town of Broome.

Townsville fared a bit better - 3 bombing raids late in July '42 all missed the town , with the only damage being one bomb which landed in a coconut plantation at a research station.

Mossman was bombed 31 July '42, with one bomb landing near a house, and injuring a child.

My Dad wouldn't allow anything Japanese in the house, or any Japanese or German cars in the driveway.

Yes I should have corrected that I know quite a bit about the Darwin bombings, it was just the way it came out. I've been to portsea heaps of times where they have all the old bunkers and artillery, awsome place to check out you forgot it was happening on our own shores.
About your old man that dosnt surprise me in the slightest, many people had the same thoughts for a while.
Then the affordability of the corolla came and we forgot all about it!

Id buy a 79 cab chassis any day, purely because theres nothing else on the market for a heavy duty ute, other than the American trucks and a G professional..and I run 5 defender tray tops, but theres only so long that you can keep them running in a commercial environment for..bring on the new Defender Utes!

Originally Posted by Summiitt

Id buy a 79 cab chassis any day, purely because theres nothing else on the market for a heavy duty ute, other than the American trucks and a G professional..and I run 5 defender tray tops, but theres only so long that you can keep them running in a commercial environment for..bring on the new Defender Utes!

Absolutely, Land Rover have totally dropped the ball in terms of the commercial sector.

In a commercial situation where you need a trayback, there are very few options. ...but I reckon don't hold your breath for a HD Defender trayback.

Would be very interesting to know what you think of a 79 vs Defender trayback if you get one. Cheers

Originally Posted by LRJim

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What I don't get is the Aussie love for Toyota's, gotta have a cruiser to be dinki di when considering the japs tried to bomb us several times in ww2 I'm surprised they didn't boycott them. Not why I dislike Toyota but something to think about....

Surely this is a sad attempt at humour???😟😟

Originally Posted by Zeros

Absolutely, Land Rover have totally dropped the ball in terms of the commercial sector.

In a commercial situation where you need a trayback, there are very few options. ...but I reckon don't hold your breath for a HD Defender trayback.

Would be very interesting to know what you think of a 79 vs Defender trayback if you get one. Cheers

I think the commercial aspect touched on here hits the nail on the head. My father (a mechanic and land rover diehard) used to say you would spend 10grand trying to make a Toyota as good as a defender off-road, and 10 grand trying to make a defender as good as a Toyota on road.

The cruiser utes are heavier duty and aimed at being a legitimate truck. Think part time 4wd, bigger engines, poverty pack features.

This is because people want it that way and buy them that way, a huge portion of which are commercial customers.

I think defenders are aimed squarely at crossing difficult terrain and carrying loads second. In the UK a 130 is a BIG vehicle, and in reality it's only as big as a 70 series single cab. The best example of a Defender for Australia is the perentie (bigger diesel, reinforced chassis etc).

In reality comparing the defender to the 70 is like comparing a Suzuki Sierra to a Jeep Wrangler. Or a 70 with a dodge ram or something. Different vehicles.

I can see why people buy them, I'd have one. But for the price and the mods - I'm keeping my 130.

Originally Posted by Summiitt

Id buy a 79 cab chassis any day, purely because theres nothing else on the market for a heavy duty ute, other than the American trucks and a G professional..and I run 5 defender tray tops, but theres only so long that you can keep them running in a commercial environment for..bring on the new Defender Utes!

Sadly the new defender won’t be the work horse your looking for.....the new Jeep ute gets a 3L motor.......given the last defer had a 2.2 I’m betting the new defer is unlikely to have anything bigger.......and I bet the load capacity will also drop. The target market for the new defender isn’t Australia.

Originally Posted by weeds

Sadly the new defender won’t be the work horse your looking for.given the last defer had a 2.2 I’m betting the new defer is unlikely to have anything bigger.......and I bet the load capacity will also drop. The target market for the new defender isn’t Australia.

What? based on media discussion with nothing from LR - lets wait and see.

I doubt you will be correct.