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Thread: 10P head to 16P head pressure regulator set-up differences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad9 View Post
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    My intention is to use the 16P head with a 16P pressure regulator, ....
    Ah, OK. apologies for the misunderstanding.
    From my end, can't really help on the rest of it. No idea on non EU3 TD5 .. Brothers is EU3(with the external fuel return hose system), and this is the only TD5 I've worked on.

    But what happened was that he ordered a FPR(dunno where from) and when it came it was the wrong type. It didn't have the external hose return.
    But(and I'm working off a very, very vague memory here) fitting it didn't look different in terms of the other connections, after the EU3 version FPR came.
    I remember one hose from the tank/fuel filter, other hose going to the cooler. Those came off the FPR body laterally, and the forward connection/hose for the return, which the early FPR didn't have.

    I remember the packaging too: early FRP came with a single gasket, and the hose on the body was looped on the pipes. That is, one bolted end of the hose and the loose end with the quick connect was looped back onto the quick connect pipe.
    The proper FPR came packed the same way, hose looped onto the body. differences being that the return hose/pipe section, and that it came with two gaskets. One of which was an early type.

    Had a quick look at RAVE again, and the only difference I see, again, is the FPR body.

    Just one other tip, I'd recommend to spend the small amount of money and renew the seals on whichever fuel cooler you end up using.
    We did some work to bros D2 a while back, and 'disturbed' the fuel cooler(just had to manoeuvre it out of the way) and after that it started leaking(coolant) from the front O ring. I'd say the stress put on it caused it.
    Arthur.

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    If the plumbing is the same on the defer I can take some pics...if that would help

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    Hi Arthur,
    Thank you for your reply, all the info helps.

    Hi Weeds,
    Mine is a 1999 Deefer, so if yours has a 16P head fitted pix would help, if it is a 10P head that's what I already have. Thanks for the offer though.

    Cheers Marty

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad9 View Post
    Hi Arthur,
    Thank you for your reply, all the info helps.

    Hi Weeds,
    Mine is a 1999 Deefer, so if yours has a 16P head fitted pix would help, if it is a 10P head that's what I already have. Thanks for the offer though.

    Cheers Marty
    Yep pretty sure I have a 16P....I have a 2000 defer.

    Will take some pics.

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    Pics of plumbing






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    OK, Hi team,
    I have re-read the thread and one answer I don't have right now is which injectors to fit. OK, so I'll have the 16P head on the 10P block utilising the 16P pressure regulator, I'll get this to work f it kills me.

    Using the original10P ECU, the original 10P block, the new reconditioned16P head and pressure regulator that came off the 16P head do I use the 16P injectors or do I use the 10P injectors? The original 10P ECU will be used which I suspect will run fine with the 10P injectors because they are matched, however will the original fuel pump be able to cater for the additional pressure that I am assuming the 16P regulator will run the 16P injectors at?

    Is it a done deal that if I run the 16P injectors I need a later ecu? Will the 10P injectors run OK with the 16P fuel pressure regulator installed? This is the one that I really want the YES answer to being my fall back position.

    Any responses welcomed, thanks in anticipation.

    Cheers Marty

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    Hi marty
    the higher pressure is generated by the injectors themselves, fuel reg pressure is the same 10p or 16p , so your pump will be fine, if you have the 16p cam and injector rockers fitted then run the green tops , the pilot and pulse width determined by the msb ecu will be close enough

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    Hi Discorevy,
    Great, thank you that allays a lot of my fears, I'll work the rest out from there, I have a fuel cooler from a 16P head so I'll try and use that as well, should make things easier.

    Cheers Marty

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