Thread: 2014 Puma loss of clutch

No idea, I picked it out of the above posts but it may or may not be. I can change it if you wish. DONE.

Originally Posted by 4bee

No idea, I picked it out of the above posts but it may or may not be. I can change it if you wish. DONE.

lol... no its just that I'm about to install one of those clutches into my old Defender... U had me worried

Ah, sorry to put the ****s up you Rob, I'm sure Valeo are ok as there must be millions in use around the world. If not, I'm sure someone here will tell you different if it isn't.

R & D on the Defender model has always been hit and miss, extensive field testing prolly floated around zero.
The clutch assembly was straight out of the FoMoCo (Ford) parts bin.
The adapter shaft between the Ford MT82 gearbox and Land Rover LT230 transfer case was a poorly half engineered item that clearly worked on the design table.
The most basic of R & D would have highlighted an issue with it. Hell I think some basic engineering thought would have highlighted an issue with it.

Pull apart numerous Jeep models that use a adapter shaft between whatever gearbox and the Jeep transfer case and it wont be worn out, even after 20 years.
*The shafts often a support bearing on either end.
*Are harder on the rockwell scale (round 50 from memory).
*Tighter fitting splines.
*Will last the life of the vehicle (despite also being installed dry).

I rest my case M'lud.

If Manufacturers cannot get the 'Basic' Engineering right what hope has any vehicle got so it will last a reasonable time & be reliable as they become more sophisticated?.


Oh hang on, I see a flaw in my argument,

Just spoke to a mechanic about my slave cylinder issue. Asked about a new clutch while he’s in there, he uses AP Driveline (genuine?).
Are they any good now - issues been fixed or they dodgy and I’ll regret it?

Interesting thread here from the UK.

I suppose Robmacca will want to bang my ears around now.

Valeo. Borg and Beck, AP Driveline - Defender Forum - LR4x4 - The Land Rover Forum


Not suprisngly you also get a couple of opinions from our Rick & that has to be worth money.

Originally Posted by 4bee

Interesting thread here from the UK.

I suppose Robmacca will want to bang my ears around now.

Valeo. Borg and Beck, AP Driveline - Defender Forum - LR4x4 - The Land Rover Forum


Not suprisngly you also get a couple of opinions from our Rick & that has to be worth money.

That thread is some 10 years old so and some said the valeo HD was ok... who really knows but its what I got so I'll see how long it lasts for...