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    2014 Puma loss of clutch

    Asking for a friend... (no, really)...

    His 2014 Puma 110 yesterday experienced loss of clutch, pedal to the floor, and was towed home last night. He described it as first going slightly soft/ vague... a lack of feel, then pedal to the floor. Sounds hydraulic to me. The pedal assembly is fine and cannot see any leaks around the clutch pedal box in the engine compartment.

    Where to start diagnosing? ... before he goes to the expense of a tow truck to a local repairer (its not drivable)?

    Cheers, Sam

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samblers View Post
    Asking for a friend... (no, really)...

    His 2014 Puma 110 yesterday experienced loss of clutch, pedal to the floor, and was towed home last night. He described it as first going slightly soft/ vague... a lack of feel, then pedal to the floor. Sounds hydraulic to me. The pedal assembly is fine and cannot see any leaks around the clutch pedal box in the engine compartment.

    Where to start diagnosing? ... before he goes to the expense of a tow truck to a local repairer (its not drivable)?

    Cheers, Sam
    Slave cylinder will be toast.
    Gearbox out job.
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    Roger. I'll break the bad news gently...

    Is there anything that can be done to confirm this diagnosis... just in the street where the car is parked?

    Sam

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samblers View Post
    Roger. I'll break the bad news gently...

    Is there anything that can be done to confirm this diagnosis... just in the street where the car is parked?

    Sam
    Not that I know off.
    I had the same issue with mine changed the master first ended up being the slave.
    When you remove it it will look ok but will be internally bypassing.
    Mark

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    Check the master cylinder for fluid. Ours did the same when the slave cylinder went during a trip, managed to keep fluid up with only 2 applications available before retoping again, I only used the clutch to start moving and changed gears with out using the pedal and out of gear when stoping.
    While they have the box out check the adapter shaft. I also did a heavy duty clutch while the box was out more as a preventative measure.
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    Is the slave cylinder on the Puma different from the 300tdi? It is a simple job on my Defender to replace the slave cylinder without taking the gearbox out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vnx205 View Post
    Is the slave cylinder on the Puma different from the 300tdi? It is a simple job on my Defender to replace the slave cylinder without taking the gearbox out.
    Yes completely different,out with everything to get to it.

    Gearbox,transfer case,etc

    A PITA.

    A lot of newer vehicles are like this,a Ford design

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samblers View Post
    Asking for a friend... (no, really)...

    His 2014 Puma 110 yesterday experienced loss of clutch, pedal to the floor, and was towed home last night. He described it as first going slightly soft/ vague... a lack of feel, then pedal to the floor. Sounds hydraulic to me. The pedal assembly is fine and cannot see any leaks around the clutch pedal box in the engine compartment.

    Where to start diagnosing? ... before he goes to the expense of a tow truck to a local repairer (its not drivable)?

    Cheers, Sam
    How many kms are on the vehicle? I recently had my clutch fail on my old tdi300. The pedal would go to the floor and come back up as per normal but I was unable to change gears - Problem turned out to be 3 of the 6 springs falling out. The springs ended up between the clutch plate and the pressure plate and clutch thus preventing the clutch from working...

    Is this a possibility with the Pumas?

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    i lost the clutch fluid as well a year ago. Mine 130 is a 2012 model with 100 K's on it.
    The slave cylinder/ thrust bearing assembly had failed. The clutch was rattling so this was changed at the same time. Dont forget to do the gearbox output shaft if it hasn't already been done.
    Was a great way to get rid of lots of dollars but the clutch is much lighter since and the vehicle drives great. A change of gearbox oil helped the gearbox and i will regularly change the gearbox oil from now on.

    Ian
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    Thanks for replies all. Its a 2014 Puma with low km's (not mine, so i don't know, but guessing 50K). I'll talk with my mate and advise him to get all the other usual clutch wear parts replaced at the same time.

    From the sound of it I don't suspect clutch plate springs... much more likely hydraulic system.

    Just a query for my own interest... is the gearbox/ transfer case removal something that can be done at home by a competent mechanic and a jack? Or special tools and stuff required?

    I presume of the hefty price tag that almost all of it is the labour to remove the gb/tf case and not much for the actual replacement of the parts.

    Sam

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