Puma Engine Replacement Options Cummins R2.8

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Originally Posted by Slunnie

I didn’t think anybody could get the front propshaft to work with the 3.2’s auto due to lack of clearance with an
LT230, or is this with a different setup eg ZF 4HP24?

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apparently Momentum have worked a way for the 6r80 and prop shaft clearance. The 6r80 is also found behind the territory TDV6 and momentum did a conversion not long ago. Set a man a challenge and he will either conqueur it or die trying. Doubt anyone has bothered with a 4hp24 behind a 3.2

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Originally Posted by MLD

apparently Momentum have worked a way for the 6r80 and prop shaft clearance. The 6r80 is also found behind the territory TDV6 and momentum did a conversion not long ago. Set a man a challenge and he will either conqueur it or die trying. Doubt anyone has bothered with a 4hp24 behind a 3.2

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Ahhh, good on them! Got to love it when somebody does what cant be done.

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Originally Posted by johntins

Have you heard of Bowler? But I take your point. The Poms still seem limited by their post WWII experience when it comes to cars.

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Bowler don't make road vehicles so a pointless comparison.

I personally think if someone can package up the cummins and deliver a finished product in relation to the conversion and reliability, it would be a success here in oz. The yanks are dropping them in lots of their older vehicles, and they are seemingly a good thing.
We love our Defender (130 Td5) and 110 (4bd1t) I would sooner fork out $40k on a engine/transmission conversion than buy a new dual cab with nothing to love or enjoy about it, been there, done that!
At the end of the day, people think we’re nuts keeping the old trucks going instead of buying new, but we think the opposite. The days of running defenders into the ground are gone, with their worth, both monetary and intangible, increasing I think people will start seeing options to repower and reinvigorate their Defenders as a worthwhile exercise.
Cheers, Bob

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Originally Posted by Baytown

I’m still scoping the options for when it comes time for an engine rebuild on my 2.2 with BAS 170 tune.
I’ve 172,000 on my vehicle and just thinking of the future.

Options: LS3 with standard manual box
LS3 with full 6 speed auto
Ford 3.2 Diesel
And now, the Cummins R2.8 Crate engine.

I contacted Cummins and am pleasantly surprised at the cost of a new 2.8 crate engine delivered to Tassie.
$15,000 plus GST, of which I’m exempt.

That price is a way better option than second hand LS3/3.2 engines, and it’s very a complete offering.
The factory stock specs are very good. 160HP, 420nm.

I wonder if anyone else has done this install in Oz. Obviously, interface to the gear box, an auto box, engine mounts, comms to the gauges, air con install etc are items that need to be factored in.

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I have no idea what the landed cost of an LS3 in Australia would be. A LS3 crate engine in top end spec, the CT525, is quoted at US$8000 on their web site.

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Originally Posted by loanrangie

Bowler don't make road vehicles so a pointless comparison.

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Err.... Conversions & Modifications | Bowler

Fast Road Defender | Bowler

If you really just want a simple reliable Defender for remote travel, rather than an expensive engine transplant, wouldn't it be simpler and cheaper just to buy a Perentie?

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Originally Posted by DiscoMick

If you really just want a simple reliable Defender for remote travel, rather than an expensive engine transplant, wouldn't it be simpler and cheaper just to buy a Perentie?

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You will even end up with a real Land Rover

A friend who lives up near Bundaberg bought a brilliant 6x6 Perentie with camper conversion on the back for less than $30,000. It had all the bells and whistles needed for prolonged outback driving and camping. He lives on the Qld. coast for summer and spends the cool months prospecting in the WA deserts. He lives in the Perentie. It replaced a Ranger with a stuffed engine which was going to cost over $20,000 to rebuild.

As to the Cummins vs LS3 conversion. Both are going to cost about the same. I would rather have 450-500 horses from an LS3 than 161 from the little Cummins.

We have completed 4-6speed auto conversions so far and working well,we have just completed. Another 3.2 and auto for a customer ready for delivery end of January.we have also had my tdv6 with 6 speed auto running, just up to the finishing and tuning stages and it sounds awesome if i do say so myself, will send pics in a couple of weeks