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Hi Grinna.
I spoke with you last year re your conversion.
Its still in my list of 3 engine options and as you’ve fitted more, heading toward my preferred option.
Im just having my BP51s’ fitted today, so that is now everything short of my focusing on the engine and possible transmission swap.
Can a 3.2 crate engine be sourced at all for this conversion, or do you prefer used due to the end cost?
Thanks mate.
Ken
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Originally Posted by DiscoMick
Couldn't agree more! It amazes me how good these vehicles are when it comes to serious remote outback travel. You can pick one up for under 20K and keep your PUMA for everything else you do in it other than the serious off road remote work. It would work out cheaper in my opinion than modifying your PUMA.
No other Landrover out of the box can come close to a Perentie.
4BD1 Isuzu 3.9 litre 4 cylinder motor that can be fitted with a turbo
Fully galvanised chassis
some with PTO winches
some with long range fuel tanks
some with dual batteries
external access storage lockers
RFSV has all the options plus 4 wheel disk brakes and power steering
The best part of the Perentie story is that they were designed for Australia and built in Australia.
I haven't seen or heard of many Perentie owners wanting to swap out the Isuzu 4BD1 for another engine. Could be that they are very reliable and good for 1 000 000kms if looked after!!!!
If you really want to spend north of 20K on your PUMA why not look into the turbo 4BD1 option when wanting to replace the PUMA 2.2. My only concern is that the PUMA gearbox might not be able to manage the torque of a turbo 4BD1 but if you are prepared to change the gearbox to a compatible 5/6 speed option it would be an exceptionable reliable remote outback vehicle .
Regards Warrick.
Heaps of people go on about the 4bd1 engine. Ive driven a few isuzu’s with the engine, cant really say i was very impressed. A 200/300tdi engine is better. Plenty of 200 and 300tdi engine have done huge kms with little or no issues. But i wouldnt put either in a puma, Just saying putting in a 4bd1 turbo in a puma would have disappointing results.
Can you get Euro 4 compliant 4BD1s?Quote:
Originally Posted by wpalmo
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Originally Posted by Baytown
Hi 200defenda,
As you can see from the quote by Baytown who started the thread, he is concerned about the reliability of his Puma for remote travel and he has only 200,000 kms on the clock.
If you have driven a 4BD1 landrover in remote areas of Australia I would find it hard for you not to be impressed with the simplicity, reliability, fuel economy and work horse capacity these engines offer. As far as high country goes the amount of torque generated by the 4BD1 with a well set up turbo is very good and would provide more than enough power to climb all day. I have driven 200 and 300tdi engine Landrovers and while they are a good engine and a lot quieter than the 4BD1 they can not match the torque reliability and simplicity of the 4BD1.
In my humble opinion it is these qualities that make the 4BD1 powered Landrovers the best remote Australian outback travel Landrovers.
As I said Baytown could do a lot worse than buy a KLR turbo Perentie and just use that for the remote travel and high country work. Keep the Puma for the everyday stuff. Probably work out cheaper in the long run and you end up with 2 great Landrovers instead of one!
As far as Euro 4 compliance - probably best left for the latte sipping mob to pontificate over!
Regards Warrick.
Personally, the Puma seems like a very tough and reliable engine which is well proven to avoid major problems, but each to his own.
Isn't the issue that you won't get engineering approval to fit a 4BD1 to a Defender of that era because it doesn't meet emissions requirements? I don't think you can even fit a TD5 to a Puma Defender.Quote:
Originally Posted by wpalmo
But that isn't what you do.... the idea is to fit a Defender body onto a Perentie / 4BD1 chassis. If the additional seating is required then Engineering Cert would be needed for the seat belts & seating capacity change.Quote:
Originally Posted by phin
Cheers.
Hi Baytown
mate before you make any decisions on an engine conversion come and drive my tdv6 auto which we are in the final stages of tuning it will impress you that much the ls3 wont even be an option.This thing is so smooth responsive fuel efficient its just a hole new level.Its a good comparison to because we have a 3.2 auto hear that is now finished so we were able to do some good comparisons.I will be posting some info on a new thread soon as i get five minutes spare
cheers Grinna
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I’ll call you this week Glenn to discuss.
Im coming over to the mainland for a month in Feb, and hope to drop in to view and drive if able.
Good on you.
Ken
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