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Ensuring traction on both wheels Is the point of lockers. The axle may have been ok, who knows for sure.
My opinion is that lockers and HD axles go together but that’s just me.
I have installed HD axles and flanges as they are a known weak point on the Perentie
Probably wouldn't have snapped with HD axle either..?! I think it's sensible too.. but gee they are not cheap!Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil B
We had a Detroit locker in the rear of our D1 300Tdi and it was a good thing.
Standard axles and flanges never broke, even in The Simpson.
The main danger is if a wheel is spinning and suddenly grips, transferring the load to the axle, so sympathetic driving helps.
I never bothered doing anything to the front, as it was unnecessary, but I agree a Truetrac is a great choice. In fact, you could also put a Truetrac in the rear.
So I would do the rear first and then decide if more is needed.
That's great feedback DiscoMick... and the bit about spinning wheels is my experience too.. correct me if I'm wrong, but surly it's not going to be spinning very fast if the other rear wheel has some traction.. unlike an open set up. This is why I was thinking less likely to break standard axles when a Detroit is fitted - because that scenario of a spinning wheel that suddenly gets traction is also less likely.
Personally i would get a selectable locker for the front over an atb, i removed my atb after about 3000km, wasn't a fan of how it performed on road, torque steer was horrendous, but i did have a bit more power than a 300tdi.
But, as for my detroit in the rear, love it, amd i agree with the others, do the aftermarket axles.
Thanks Vern. Any feedback/comment on the on-road manners of the Detroit?
Ditto, took me 2 sets of suspension bushes all round to work out it is the ATB...Quote:
Originally Posted by Vern
I also currently have a rear detroit with maxi axles. My County from years ago had ARB lockers & standard axles, I gave it hell with no breakages, but maybe front & rears are less stressfull than just rears.
My Detroit has now clocked up about 30k, It still kangaroo hops around carparks, courts etc & maybe once a few thou k"s give off an almighty bang & jerk. But for the $$ it cost I'm pretty happy. Done the Simpson, Kimberley, Pilbara. Gibb River rd, all good..Quote:
Originally Posted by Landy Red
you will not notice it unless you flat your foot half way through a corner... and even then...Quote:
Originally Posted by Landy Red
A detroit like this one Eaton 225SL36 - Detroit Locker - Land Rover Salisbury 8HA 24 Spline - Free Shipping! is really a 'unlocker' which ratchets when there is a speed difference between the wheels (one wheel effectively rotates backwards).
However when you apply power it will stop ratcheting and lock.
Watch the video in that link. I think EAT-225SL36 Salisbury 8HA Detroit Locker | 24 Spline (3.54) is the part for you.
I prefer the simplicity of this type of locker over the arb in my perentie...
My experience was that after fitting the arb rear locker and using it on a wheeling trip while loaded (3T 110 perentie) I twisted both sals shafts.
locker $715 Differential, Eaton Detroit Locker, 24-Spline, Land Rover, Each
axles $625 pair IIRC maxidrive from MR automotive
Start with the locker if you cannot afford both, no-one here knows your driving style and cannot predict if you will break your axles or not... although I think the consensus is that it's inevitable, but I think it's got a lot to do with the weight you're carrying around and how you use that right foot... [tonguewink]
When I bought my 130 it already had an ARB locker in the rear, I spent a bomb on Ashcroft pegged front locker, CVs, flanges and axles all around. I have recently replaced the ARB rear locker with the Ashcroft pegged version, also replaced rear shafts and flanges as the splines were quite worn after about 180k. I'm not sure about the increased / decreased likelihood of snapping something with lockers, I'm very aware that on a steep, rough climb with diffs locked I can be putting the whole drive load through one axle in the worst locations, but it is almost never a shock load like a spin-grab with open diffs. The air lockers behave normally on the road and lock completely when I want them to, can't ask better than that.