Lockers...

Hi

That's what I have seen happen too. No locker. Front Wheels lifts, unloaded half shaft spins at several times speed, putting kinetic energy into entire rotating wheel assembly. Wheel comes down and finds enough traction to transfer all that kinetic energy into strain energy, exceeding fracture capacity of half shaft or CV...dreaded..bang..click..click.. noises, axle or CV gas gone . Also explains why the short shaft tends to break more too.. less material to absorb that excess energy or more energy imparted per unit of volume.

One things I love about lockers over all other systems, traction control, Detroit, ATB,etc. You engage them before you traverse a low traction situations. You then don't have to regain traction. A spinning wheel has a whole lot less traction than a gripping one.

Clive

I first got into 4wding in 1975 and this argument on whether lockers break or do not break axles was going on then without resolution. Lockers have not broken any axles on my 101 - not a good example due to the size of the axles - nor my Haflinger with their match stick axles. The only time I have broken axles was in my standard series and it broke two axles driving on the bitumen. The clue to me is when I was a kid my neighbour Morris Major used to break axles when he loaded all the neighbourhood kids into the car - overloaded.

So my thought is that axles will break in an open diff where too much zoom zoom is being used and one wheel is in the air spinning away and it bites into something coming to a quick halt.

With diff locks, if the axles are in good condition they will not normally break unless the vehicle is over loaded and too much zoom zoom is being used.

My thoughts.

Garry

We run a Detroit true trac in our Sals rear and an ARB air locker in the front of our 110. Maxi drive axles front and rear, ashcroft cv’s. Run wolfs and 255’s. Its great, but i’d probably get selectable lockers front and rear next time (in our 130).
Just drove up to the Pieman a few weeks ago, no issues getting in or out, unlike the unlocked triton that came along....

My ARB locker has, just booked it in to be installed.

Wiring loom hasn’t arrived.

Does the air locker front get much use?

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Originally Posted by butundede

We run a Detroit true trac in our Sals rear and an ARB air locker in the front of our 110. Maxi drive axles front and rear, ashcroft cv’s. Run wolfs and 255’s. Its great, but i’d probably get selectable lockers front and rear next time (in our 130).
Just drove up to the Pieman a few weeks ago, no issues getting in or out, unlike the unlocked triton that came along....

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Originally Posted by Landy Red

Does the air locker front get much use?

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Yep, I tend to use it proactively. Comes into its own climbing up steps or muddy hills.

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Originally Posted by Landy Red

Does the air locker front get much use?

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When I have F and R ARB’s on my old defer I rarely had the need to use the front locker.

Previous owner fitted them.....

I’m undecided if I’ll install one in the front for our trip as I seemed to by with just the rear.

Same here in my Haflinger - rarely use the front locker and only occasionally the rear locker.

When I had my long wheelbase Haflinger, my party trick was driving up the face of dams on farms.

I tried various combinations of 4WD, rear locker and both lockers. Almost every dam needed everything locked.

However, I very rarely used the front locker on firetrails and tracks because of the effect it had on the ability to steer. If I was going straight, it was definitely helpful, but if I needed to turn, it was a bit disconcerting.

I had to google what a haflinger was.. they look pretty cool. Wikipedia said they had locking axles front and rear, what kind of diff lock did they have?

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Originally Posted by 101RRS

Same here in my Haflinger - rarely use the front locker and only occasionally the rear locker.

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