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    Quote Originally Posted by spudboy View Post
    Chucaro - what extra fittings etc do you need to organise to fit that CAV filter? Do you just cut the line between the fuel pump and the existing filter, and crimp on some fittings?

    I haven't crawled under to check on the Puma, but on the TD5 there were 2 lines going from the fuel pump to the filter (and back again?). Would you just be installing it on the line flowing from the pump to the filter? How do I work out which one to cut (if that's how you do it)?

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    David
    You can go both ways, fitting an extra filter between the tank and the original filter or you can fit a Hi-Flow fuel filter adapter which fits where is the factory filter is but with the advantage of having a cheap replacement filter and also a sediment glass bow.

    If you are worried about the quality of the fuel then fit both options.

    The info about the Hi-Flow and contact details is HERE

    Cheers

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    So, just to restate what I think you have said:
    • Start by replacing the std LR filter with a HiFlow fuel filter adaptor, so you can use the CAV filters with the glass sediment meter
    • If you have bad fuel in your area, add an extra pre-filter before the std filter using the $69 filter in your earlier post, cutting the fuel lines to do so.
    • If you have the dual filters, make the first one (say) 30 micron, and the second one (say) 6 micron.
    Is that about it?

    Sounds like a pretty cheap insurance policy if the Puma engines are going to be so particular about the fuel that goes through.

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    In the Tdi and Td5 engine a 6 microns would be Ok
    On the Puma or an engine with a common rail system the second filter or lastone on the line have to be 2 micron.
    If you cannot get a Delphi in 2 micron in your area look for the Stanadyne 2 microns of equivelent size that it is very good as well.
    Donaldson is anm excellent brand as well. We used their air filtration from them on the rice farms equipment and performed excellent.

    Cheers

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    Just a word of warning - Before you touch the factory filter - confirm with Land Rover that they would allow you to do this on a PUMA. My understanding is that removing or altering the factory filter will cause you all sorts of grief with Warranty. However if you put extra filters inline BERFORE the factory filter - then they would have little ability to refuse warranty. So my recommendation will be to add a decent filter BEFORE the factory filter. Leave the factory filter alone, or you'll end up in endless arguments with LR if there is a warranty issue on your engine.

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    Based on some Goodle research the $300 Racor filter has a 2 micron element - but more importantly the filter element ($80) is treated to repell water. This means that even if you fill it up with water it won't let water through and will instead block. Other filter media could allow some water through if the filter is flooded. To be honest - $300 sounds awesomely cheap compared to the possible $10k bill I am being quoted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chucaro View Post
    In the Tdi and Td5 engine a 6 microns would be Ok
    Cheers
    The standard TD5 fuel filter will stop particles in the 3-5 micron range so if you are just running a seperate filter I would want it to be in that range or better.

    I agree with BB's comments about messing with the factory setup as with these issues I am sure they would only be too happy to have a way out!

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    If the TD5 filter is only 3-5 micron, then that's a big issue for the PUMA - it's the same filter!. CRD's need a 2 micron filter. So that is a significant worry!

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    Stanadyne have a good fuel manager system with the recommended filters for primary and final filters.

    Info can be read HERE

    Cheers

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    Is it the same fuel filter on the Puma and TD5 then BB?

    To my knowledge:

    Puma fuel filer is WJI500040

    TD5 is ESR4686

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    can we do pics of the two elements?
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