Thread: True Trac or Detroit locker

Originally Posted by isuzurover

An ARB locker for a sals is only around $700USD new in the states.

Where would one order these from?

Originally Posted by Ranga

Where would one order these from?

ARB RD20 Air Locker - to suit 24 spline Salisbury diff

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Prices seem to have gone up a bit since I last looked. However these are just the first 2 I found.. Plenty of others.

I got my Detroit from Keith - he's very good to deal and it was a great price.

I'm reasonably happy with it, 2 main downsides from my point of view - the rear tends to walk sideways on slippery side slopes and on steep loose/slippery descents, the rear feels like it wants to come around. The latter can be overcome with some throttle but is still unnerving at times. Although, my 110 being a ute and light in the rear may exacerbate this. These things wouldnt be an issue with a selectable locker. If money was not an issue at the time, I would have bought a selectable locker. Having said that, I dont regret buying it.

On the road, its virtually unnoticeable and in cross axle type situations its as good as any other locker.

The only other thing I'd add is that locked axles dont really make much difference in sand - its possible that you could be dissapointed if the main reason for getting a locker is to have an easier time in soft sand.

Originally Posted by mark2

I got my Detroit from Keith - he's very good to deal and it was a great price.

I'm reasonably happy with it, ...

The only other thing I'd add is that locked axles dont really make much difference in sand - its possible that you could be dissapointed if the main reason for getting a locker is to have an easier time in soft sand.

Thanks Mark I was hoping you would comment as I thought you had one of these options. I do get wheel spin from one wheel when stuck in soft dry sand so i thought traction from both rear wheels would help. With the front TT I get both wheels spinning and still stuck. However, getting unstuck only normally involves reversing up and giving it a bit more right foot.

Are Detroits any harder on axles than air lockers?
Sorry 4 hijack.
Cheers Dean.

Originally Posted by mark2

The only other thing I'd add is that locked axles dont really make much difference in sand - its possible that you could be dissapointed if the main reason for getting a locker is to have an easier time in soft sand.

Not that I've done very much sand driving at all, but found the opposite in the simpson, they made a huge difference on the dunes, towing the camper, enough that you'd get complacent, leave the lockers out, get stuck, simply back down, lock both diffs and drive over, actually ended up just leaving the rear in probably 3/4's of the crossing

Originally Posted by 953

Are Detroits any harder on axles than air lockers?
Sorry 4 hijack.
Cheers Dean.

This is how I see it:
o Locked or unlocked, air lockers put down power through both axles (same with TrueTracs).
o Unlocked, (which is every time you go around a corner) a Detriot is only putting power down through 1 axle

So - Detroits really require an axle upgrade ....

Originally Posted by flagg

Is there any disadvantage to fitting one to the front?

Also Outlaw who is 'Keith'?

I remember a long time ago at a technical training day with the Range Rover Club, when that question actually came up, the advice was no for the front axle, something to do with the steering, the best set up for auto locking diffs was a detriot in the rear and a truetrac in the front.
That came from someone who we all considered to be an expert in Land Rovers, I think it may have been Lindsay Johnstone, it was a long time ago.