Page 3 of 3 FirstFirst 123
Results 21 to 29 of 29

Thread: Tuning options - Puma

  1. #21
    Nera Donna Guest
    I’ve been researching the same thing for my vehicle (2008 2.4 110) for a very long time now. And getting a straight answer from these ‘chip’ companies can be a bit tricky. I spoken to a few of the guys from the forum, on and offline and it seems to be a 50/50 sort of thing (my opinion only). Some blokes reckon it’s the best thing since sliced bread, others say don’t mess with the vehicle because the repercussions are not worth the risk. I know there’s the ‘re-flashing of the ECM’ that many guys swear by, I don’t doubt them for a minute.
    I’ll shear a reply I received from ‘tunit’. Which to date is the best reply from any vendor that I have been in contact with.

    Your Defender uses a V-CR Denso 2 system and costs $1280 incl GST, this Tunit is about the size of a mobile phone, with a 15pin plug on one end and an access panel on the other.

    This particular Tunit comes complete with a detachable harness that has original manufacturers Denso plugs matching the ones on your engine. Installation is simply a case of fitting the two plugs on the Tunit harness to two plugs on your engine. With the Tunit there is no need for dismantling or going inside your ECU.

    Installation can be carried out either by yourself as full installation instructions are supplied or by a dealer.


    Defender figures: 91kW to approx 110kW and your torque from 359Nm to approx 415Nm

    As well as improved torque throughout the RPM range, the torque is also increased lower down where it is needed, giving better acceleration, throttle response and more pulling power.

    One of the unique features of the Tunit is it's adjustability. The Tunit has ten different settings. By prising off the rear access panel, you can adjust the Tunit manually. The Tunit is pre-programmed for your individual vehicle, however each car can be different in output and characteristics and for this reason you can choose between the settings to suit your vehicle. This setting can also be altered if you were to further modify your vehicle with performance filters, turbo's or intercoolers etc, you will probably find with your exhaust that this can be turned up a bit.

    If you wish to carry out extra modifications to your vehicle or if you have special requirements then we and our distributors can re-program you unit to suit. This is generally carried out after first installation.

    As a result of tuning most people tend to gain 7-10% better fuel economy. This can vary from vehicle to vehicle and depends on application/driver but is generally the case.

    I have no affiliations with ‘tunit’ just sharing the information.
    What I have learnt is the exhaust gas temperatures must be taken into consideration with any modification with any of the Defender diesel engines, old or new.
    I did look into a supercharger, but seeing as the inlet manifold would have to be fabricated, one off job. I let that idea slide. I don’t want to sacrifice reliability for performance.
    I’m leaning towards a chip, exhaust, intercooler combo. I’ve had correspondence with ‘Roo Systems’. Very willing people and their product looks good for the Japanese 4x4 manufactures market, but to date no data or performance figures for the Defender.
    Twisted performance in the UK make some astronomical performance claims, but I fear the stress would be too much for the poor old Puma engine.
    Intercoolers? In a word. Expensive. Again no performance figures for anybody I have contacted. The principle is sound, but to handover all that money on someone’s else’s say so??? It’s a lot of money to spend on a leap of faith.
    In the end, there is no ‘magic bullet’. We all have to make our own decisions on the information we have at our disposal, the availability of the products and affordability. One guy from the Forum told me that the overseas unit where setup for overseas conditions (makes sense). That unless the unit can be adjusted by the end user, he advised against this type of unit. I think that’s worth taking in to consideration.
    Cheers
    Craig

  2. #22
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Stellenbosch, Republic of the Western Cape, RSA
    Posts
    662
    Total Downloaded
    0
    Bang for buck, the best performance mod on any turbodiesel is to remove the cat and middle silence box and replaced with a straight-through pipe.

    Adding a bigger intercooler will also help the engine breathe better. Although this may not translate into a major performance increase, it will improve the longevity of the engine.

  3. #23
    Join Date
    Jan 1970
    Location
    Down the road from Sydney
    Posts
    14,702
    Total Downloaded
    0
    also bear in mind that the ECU's on the puma are only good for being flashed 13 times I believe
    Our Land Rover does not leak oil! it just marks its territory.......




  4. #24
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Posts
    369
    Total Downloaded
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by dullbird View Post
    also bear in mind that the ECU's on the puma are only good for being flashed 13 times I believe
    where have you heard that. I thought that the BAS type could be reflashed over and over? Maybe Pete @ B-A-S could confirm that or Tombie

  5. #25
    Join Date
    Jan 1970
    Location
    Down the road from Sydney
    Posts
    14,702
    Total Downloaded
    0
    I cant remember exactly now as I heard it couple of years ago, things may of changed now...I heard it through someone in land rover
    Was just told that the ECU has a limit. was also told that land rover computers also automatically resets ECU if you happen to have an undetectable Map on the it too. How true that is I dont know
    Our Land Rover does not leak oil! it just marks its territory.......




  6. #26
    dmdigital's Avatar
    dmdigital is offline OldBushie Vendor

    Gold Subscriber
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    Arnhem Land, NT
    Posts
    8,492
    Total Downloaded
    0
    The CANbus systems will reset from the dealer's system if it detects an invalid configuration (non-LR) is my understanding too. As for the writing, the memory storage should be good for thousands of rewrites. You have to remember it is storing information in there itself during vehicle operation. OK mainly DTC's but it is definitely able to take more than a dozen or so rewrites as even the dealers system will update it as required.
    MY15 Discovery 4 SE SDV6

    Past: 97 D1 Tdi, 03 D2a Td5, 08 Kimberley Kamper, 08 Defender 110 TDCi, 99 Defender 110 300Tdi[/SIZE]

  7. #27
    Join Date
    Jan 1970
    Location
    Down the road from Sydney
    Posts
    14,702
    Total Downloaded
    0
    but when you put a map on your not updating are you...your wiping info and adding your own complete information would this make any difference.

    It was indicated to me that it was limited to stop reflashing of the Ecu not updating.
    Not saying my info is right and hopefully someone in the know can put us all straight
    Our Land Rover does not leak oil! it just marks its territory.......




  8. #28
    dmdigital's Avatar
    dmdigital is offline OldBushie Vendor

    Gold Subscriber
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    Arnhem Land, NT
    Posts
    8,492
    Total Downloaded
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by dullbird View Post
    but when you put a map on your not updating are you...your wiping info and adding your own complete information would this make any difference.
    Just like creating, deleting and removing DTC's or when the dealer upgrades the vehicle's configuration file.
    MY15 Discovery 4 SE SDV6

    Past: 97 D1 Tdi, 03 D2a Td5, 08 Kimberley Kamper, 08 Defender 110 TDCi, 99 Defender 110 300Tdi[/SIZE]

  9. #29
    Join Date
    Jan 1970
    Location
    CROMER, NSW
    Posts
    2,048
    Total Downloaded
    0
    Go see Bruce Davis. he will sort it out. i drove his chipped SVX on the heritage drive last year and it was bloody awesome. he reckons on that test run, he was getting 150km/h out of 5th gear, but admitted it probably isn't designed to go that fast.
    a couple of our members have had problems with those "plug and go" type chips upgrades like the DP, from bizarre behaviour and surging to intermittent engine cutout for no reason (when they've been in for a while)
    you have to understand that these eproms work on very small voltages and by using friction connections like a plug and go chip upgrade, you may introduce HR joints into the system that further degrade the signals to and from the original chip, and these will cause premature failures.
    LAND ROVER;
    HELPING PUT OIL BACK IN THE GROUND FOR 70 YEARS
    CARS DON'T GET ANY "GREENER" THAT.

Page 3 of 3 FirstFirst 123

Bookmarks

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Search AULRO.com ONLY!
Search All the Web!