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Thread: Has anyone tried a Steinbauer chip in their Puma?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brid View Post
    Just bear in mind that there is often a lot of bluff in dealer warranty statements. I am involved in supplying a product for engines to the mining industry, and can tell you there is never any support for aftermarket product by manufacturers. However, their warranty must cover materials and workmanship. If their is a problem with the engine, their warranty covers it.

    If it can be shown that the aftermarket product, additive or whatever, caused a failure or problem, they have no responsibility to repair or rectify.

    OEM's & dealers will often try to get out of warranty by pointing to another product causing it, and you might have a battle, but if you know how you stand legally (and the product has not caused damage) the law is on your side.

    I dealt with one mine that was told their warranty would be voided unless they used the engine manufacturers brand oil, while a BHP group of mines all used the recommended oil specification in a Mobil brand...knowing that there were no warranty problems at all. (This is unrelated to my business...just an example I came across.)

    In my case, I don't believe the Tunit will cause any damage, and there are no reports I am aware of that indicate problems. Also, I don't drive it hard so there is only a small risk, and I am happy to use it under warranty, and enjoy the better drive.
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    try telling it to the guy that spent a fair bit of money lifting his puma...only to be told after the second gear box that he had to return it to standard as they blamed the vibration and failures of the gearbox on the lift...after trying other avenues

    Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to talk you out of what your doing only saying that In my opinion its all good till something goes wrong and you have to prove you and your accessories are not at fault. I have accessories on my car a few actually, however I feel tampering with the engine would be something I would not have the ball's to do...its the most expensive thing on the car and if they rufused to fix that I would be up ****s creek without a paddle

    I have already been in a position where I have had to battle and prove something was not my fault...and I can tell you its bloody hard and I would not want to do it again however saved me 10grand.
    Our Land Rover does not leak oil! it just marks its territory.......




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    Quote Originally Posted by dullbird View Post
    ....I feel tampering with the engine would be something I would not have the ball's to do....


    I'm confused now, Lou.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p38arover View Post


    I'm confused now, Lou.

    I thought you were a female.
    only on weekends Ron...


    (scratches beard)
    Our Land Rover does not leak oil! it just marks its territory.......




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    Quote Originally Posted by dullbird View Post
    try telling it to the guy that spent a fair bit of money lifting his puma...only to be told after the second gear box that he had to return it to standard as they blamed the vibration and failures of the gearbox on the lift...after trying other avenues

    Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to talk you out of what your doing only saying that In my opinion its all good till something goes wrong and you have to prove you and your accessories are not at fault. I have accessories on my car a few actually, however I feel tampering with the engine would be something I would not have the ball's to do...its the most expensive thing on the car and if they rufused to fix that I would be up ****s creek without a paddle

    I have already been in a position where I have had to battle and prove something was not my fault...and I can tell you its bloody hard and I would not want to do it again however saved me 10grand.
    What if the modifications were untraceable and completely removable for servicing etc...?

    No evidence of tampering ever!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie2 View Post
    What if the modifications were untraceable and completely removable for servicing etc...?

    No evidence of tampering ever!
    well thats true....

    but for instance if you have a flashed ECU that you put back to standard before the dealer hooks up the comp then yes they cant trace it...if you do have it on there the dealers comp automatically returns the map back to standard I believe.

    I also believe that the ecu has a limited number of times it can be update 13 springs to mind before you need to, I cant remember whether it was a complete software install of the ECU or a new ECU..(I think its a new ECU.)

    This was discussed when the patches were due out and then quarantined.

    So the point I'm getting to is for me for what I see as not a hugh amount to gain in power from the chip (i'm sure the TD5 gains way more from being chipped then a Puma does) seems like a lot of effort that may well cost you in the end anyway should something go wrong.
    Our Land Rover does not leak oil! it just marks its territory.......




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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie2 View Post
    What if the modifications were untraceable and completely removable for servicing etc...?

    No evidence of tampering ever!
    Data logging will show it though.. All in memory for the dealer to see.

    Not sure, but I think it's in some vehicles now. So I don't think data logging is far away for LandRovers.

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