400,000 miles in a Tesla Model S in 3 years

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Originally Posted by DazzaTD5

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Scatter-gun argument, nice. Why make a point when you can make 15 irrelevant ones?

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Originally Posted by manic

Encouraging people to buy things they dont need is what got us into this mess in the first place.

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Hydrocarbon fuels are the things we won't need, ya peanut. You buy a lot more fuel than car when operating a vehicle over its life. C'mon, it's pretty simple.

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Originally Posted by bee utey

It must feel good burning all those strawmen of your imagination...[biggrin]

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lol lol lol ..... it sure does [tonguewink][tonguewink]

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Originally Posted by Dervish

Hydrocarbon fuels are the things we won't need

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So after refining the crude oil what do we do with all the petrol, diesel, heavy fuel or does it go to magical pixie land too?

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Originally Posted by Dervish

Scatter-gun argument, nice. Why make a point when you can make 15 irrelevant ones?



Hydrocarbon fuels are the things we won't need, ya peanut. You buy a lot more fuel than car when operating a vehicle over its life. C'mon, it's pretty simple.

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The embodied emissions of a car can rival the exhaust pipe emissions over its entire lifetime.

New cars should absolutley be EV, no more ICE. I said that a few posts up.

But if you are buying a new vehicle every few years for emissions/range/technology improvements you are probably doing far more damage than the old guy who decides to drive his banger to the grave.

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Originally Posted by manic

But if you are buying a new vehicle every few years for emissions/range/technology improvements you are probably doing far more damage than the old guy who decides to drive his banger to the grave.

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Unless you always destroy your car instead of trading it in, this is a poor argument. Used car purchasers benefit from low km cars being available. Where would poor people be if the only used cars available were 1995 Camrys? One shudders to think of the indignity.

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Originally Posted by DazzaTD5

So after refining the crude oil what do we do with all the petrol, diesel, heavy fuel or does it go to magical pixie land too?

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I don't think that industrial chemists snort pixie dust, but can convert their refineries to make whatever product is in demand. That could be durable consumer goods such as lightweight vehicle components, or even single use plastic bags if that is where the demand is. They could even buy less crude oil if demand dropped enough, who knows.

I'll just leave this video here


https://www.facebook.com/extremetube...5380382572217/

"Tesla-powered electric dune buggy accelerate shockingly fast in sand


With a rated peak power capacity of 475 kW (636 HP), it has to make the ‘Tesla Sand Truck’ one of the most powerful electric dune vehicles out there."

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Originally Posted by bee utey

Where would poor people be if the only used cars available were 1995 Camrys? One shudders to think of the indignity.

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Haha.. it wont make a blind bit of difference. They will still buy new cars on finance!

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Originally Posted by manic

Haha.. it wont make a blind bit of difference. They will still buy new cars on finance!

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Any yet there is a healthy market for good used cars. This forum wouldn't exist if people only bought new.

Imagine if the battery packs required to push a camry 400km became small enough and as cheap to buy as say, an old 95 camry. The second hand ICE market would largly become a buy to convert market. I would love to see this happen.

If conversions were then pushed by media and government as a good choice for the sake of enviromental impact and benefits to small/medium businesses in Australia...... we would be dreaming!