400,000 miles in a Tesla Model S in 3 years

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Originally Posted by bee utey

I don't think that industrial chemists snort pixie dust, but can convert their refineries to make whatever product is in demand. That could be durable consumer goods such as lightweight vehicle components, or even single use plastic bags if that is where the demand is. They could even buy less crude oil if demand dropped enough, who knows.

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How possibly could demand drop for crude oil, another unrealistic idea, certainly not with a EV, all that plastic? (yes just like a dirty petrol/diesel car), all that dirty industry manufacturing batteries.

I am not against EV transport, just the unrealistic view of how much benefit its going to give especially the likes of Tesla.
But I am against the detrimental effect it has on people mostly in third world countries that dont get a say. people dont want to talk about this aspect of building an electric car.
Is Tesla doing any sort of ethic supply chain check?
Already demand is out stripping supply for precious metals used in electric car construction.

EVs are not going to make a difference let alone quick enough.

all of the arguments are invalid as its been proven the earth is flat.

I kinda agree with Dazza on some of those points. We have hit a level of saturation with car ownership and should have learnt some lessons along the way.

The shift to EV could easily be exploited by political and media pressure for the benefits of big business under the guise of environmental reform. This could lead to government legislation that effectively puts millions of cars in the crusher and enforces a mass resupply of vehicles with increased enviromental fall out from manufacturing.

We need to make greater efforts to recycle and repurpose. I would hate to see such a huge change over pushed through and then have people ditching their ICar8 soon as the ICarX comes out just because it has face recognition and a sleeker grill. Or e-cars piled up because their battery packs cannot be economically replaced. There would be no progress there, it wont be sustainable, with growing populations the enviromental impact would only get worse.

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Originally Posted by DazzaTD5

How possibly could demand drop for crude oil, another unrealistic idea, certainly not with a EV, all that plastic? (yes just like a dirty petrol/diesel car), all that dirty industry manufacturing batteries.

I am not against EV transport, just the unrealistic view of how much benefit its going to give especially the likes of Tesla.
But I am against the detrimental effect it has on people mostly in third world countries that dont get a say. people dont want to talk about this aspect of building an electric car.
Is Tesla doing any sort of ethic supply chain check?
Already demand is out stripping supply for precious metals used in electric car construction.

EVs are not going to make a difference let alone quick enough.

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So you're saying that making a half ton of recyclable plastic parts has a bigger environmental footprint than burning multiple tons of hydrocarbons to drive an ICE vehicle over its lifespan? Foundries for casting engine parts are cleaner than battery plants? Australia is a third world country? And when millions of tons of dead batteries are collected, no-one will work out how to effectively recycle the rare metals contained in them?

Better just keep burning stinky ****, because choking the person behind you is so much more important than doing your bit. :bat:

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Originally Posted by Eevo

all of the arguments are invalid as its been proven the earth is flat.

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As flat as the back of your head. [biggrin]

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Originally Posted by bee utey

As flat as the back of your head. [biggrin]

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it happens when your dropped on your head as a baby.

The Arab Oil Nations can see the writing on the wall . Get in while they can !!


Report: Saudi Arabia is looking to invest big in Tesla as the company teases going private | Business Insider

Here is the perfect world for some of you guys ( Apart from the Electric Car at the end)

https://youtu.be/XQWG9zriXV4

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And when millions of tons of dead batteries are collected, no-one will work out how to effectively recycle the rare metals contained in them?

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Home - Australian Battery Recycling Initiative

Li-ion batteries aren't a new thing, we've been recycling them for years. The market will certainly experience growing pains over the next while though.

This is going to be marketing gold!

Next up, a small black and white room full of cigarette smokers, emotive music, and a baby crying on a cold dusty floor. Before cutting to a new electric ford in full colour on a sunny leafy suburban driveway.

Im gonna feel so bad. We all need to buy new e-cars ASAP!