Renewable energy exploding

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Originally Posted by DiscoMick

It's a market. Any generator can bid into the market. Lowest bid wins.

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not really. its quite a complex bidding market

lets say you and i are generators. they need 2 units of power

you bid 30$ for 1 unit of power and i bid 35$ for one unit for power.

we both get paid 35$ each.

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Originally Posted by PhilipA

I just had another look at the output and wind was around 6% at 5 PM yesterday.

It is 36% now so poor old coal will have to spin reserve or shut down gen sets.
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How much backup must the system have to cover peak demand time when you can only rely on the wind proportion to cover 6% of capacity.

It boggles the mind that the wind promoters are allowed to sell anything they produce but have no responsibility to provide electricity 24-7.

This should have been written into the original legislation but then nobody would have invested in wind to get the subsidies would they. Money for jam.

Regards Philip A

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State owned entities that had responsibility for generation, distribution and retail (and redundancy planning) were sold off.

Its open slather these days.

DL

Wind energy 6.1% at 3PM 10/9/2019 for entire east coast.
what was that about the wind always blowing somewhere, in this case probably too hard.
Regards PhilipA

Canberra will be home to one of Australia's biggest batteries as ACT weans off fossil fuels
Canberra will be home to one of Australia's biggest batteries as ACT weans off fossil fuels - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

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Originally Posted by PhilipA

I just had another look at the output and wind was around 6% at 5 PM yesterday.

It is 36% now so poor old coal will have to spin reserve or shut down gen sets.
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How much backup must the system have to cover peak demand time when you can only rely on the wind proportion to cover 6% of capacity.

It boggles the mind that the wind promoters are allowed to sell anything they produce but have no responsibility to provide electricity 24-7.

This should have been written into the original legislation but then nobody would have invested in wind to get the subsidies would they. Money for jam.

Regards Philip A

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Thats a part of the way energy production needs to evolve. Rather than slagging it off, people should be celebrating that fossil fueled power plants were able to be relaxed for a period of time. Same with Solar, if the sun is shining, then thats great if they can back off the power plants through the day. Its still a win for the air that people breath.

Surf and Turf [biggrin] First hydrogen from tidal was 2017.

Low-carbon energy makes majority of UK electricity for first time

Low-carbon energy makes majority of UK electricity for first time | Environment | The Guardian

Renewables meet 50% of electricity demand on Australia's power grid for first time

Renewables meet 50% of electricity demand on Australia's power grid for first time | Environment | The Guardian

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Originally Posted by DiscoMick

Renewables meet 50% of electricity demand on Australia's power grid for first time

Renewables meet 50% of electricity demand on Australia's power grid for first time | Environment | The Guardian

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fro the article

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Renewables maintained the 50% mark for only about 10 minutes and over the entire day contributed 31.2% of the electricity used across the five states.

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i would like to see 50% when the wind isnt blowing and the sun isnt shining.

That's like saying you'd like to see a coal power station operating when it's run out of coal. Pointless.