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    A complication is that fuel excise is a federal tax - and any feasible replacement for it in EVs would have to be a state tax. Best of luck on getting states to all agree to collect money for the Commonwealth, or to refer powers to the Commonwealth.

    The powers of the Federal government to tax are limited, and historically states have been very reluctant to assist (and the Commonwealth has also been very jealous of state attempts to trespass on their powers, for example in state attempts to emulate excise a couple of decades ago.

    Certainly, the states could impose an annual tax or a mileage tax on EVs, to make up for the loss in excise - but why would they? That is the Federal government's problem, and they have neither the power nor the mechanism (vehicle registration) to do it.
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    EV rego is $100 cheaper annually too. (in Victoria at least) VicRoads tell me its a "green Incentive" . How is it an 'incentive' if people don't know about it .

    NewZealand have it all sorted, They don't pay Excise on Diesel over there , Diesels over 3500kg pay a RUC tax (road User Charge) done by a gps tag system , its fair and it works , they are implementing same for EV's to begin after 2021.

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    Anyone noticed that wind energy in Australia is currently running at 16% and has been below 20% of capacity since 9AM?
    I bet the old coal power stations are running flat out to keep the lights on and more importantly to keep the heaters heating.
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    So much for the wind is always blowing somewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipA View Post
    Anyone noticed that wind energy in Australia is currently running at 16% and has been below 20% of capacity since 9AM?
    I bet the old coal power stations are running flat out to keep the lights on and more importantly to keep the heaters heating.
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    So much for the wind is always blowing somewhere.
    AFAIK one unit at Yallourn is a bit sad , about 26% of Vic coal fired generation and will be out till summer.

    Coal generation making wind look good?

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    I think you’ll find that 4 units at Yallourn make up about 26% of Vic coal fired generation.
    I’m sure your post makes sense to some.
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    Or gas plants might make up the shortfall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goingbush View Post
    EV rego is $100 cheaper annually too. (in Victoria at least) VicRoads tell me its a "green Incentive" . How is it an 'incentive' if people don't know about it .

    NewZealand have it all sorted, They don't pay Excise on Diesel over there , Diesels over 3500kg pay a RUC tax (road User Charge) done by a gps tag system , its fair and it works , they are implementing same for EV's to begin after 2021.

    https://www.transport.govt.nz/multi-...tric-vehicles/
    NZ does not have states!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    Or gas plants might make up the shortfall.
    Or Nuclear power as coal is old tech and dirty and gas is rapidly becoming to expensive and is also a finite resource.
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    I just had another look at the output and wind was around 6% at 5 PM yesterday.

    It is 36% now so poor old coal will have to spin reserve or shut down gen sets.
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    How much backup must the system have to cover peak demand time when you can only rely on the wind proportion to cover 6% of capacity.

    It boggles the mind that the wind promoters are allowed to sell anything they produce but have no responsibility to provide electricity 24-7.

    This should have been written into the original legislation but then nobody would have invested in wind to get the subsidies would they. Money for jam.

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    It's a market. Any generator can bid into the market. Lowest bid wins.

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