Thread: Saving the World with hydrogen just took a step closer

I wonder what could happen in SA, where the generators have been actually paying money to put power into the grid, if the 'excess' generation just lazily produced hydrogen on those 'unprofitable' days.

It's not like refining aluminium that needs constant power, just an opportunistic thing.

DL

Originally Posted by 350RRC

I wonder what could happen in SA, where the generators have been actually paying money to put power into the grid, if the 'excess' generation just lazily produced hydrogen on those 'unprofitable' days.

It's not like refining aluminium that needs constant power, just an opportunistic thing.

DL

The cost for doing that have reduced by about 100% every 5 years or less IF the Asian Renewable Energy hub can install wind and solar for hydrogen/ammonia in WA as expected at a cost effective rate using spare unused capacity for existing assets will be a gold mine The big battery types are fine. The capacity and flexibility and cost of Hydrogen offers over batteries will see that much sooner than many think. The Gigabyte Electrolyzer production in the UK is about to double when the first one was just starting.

The scale and size from just two years ago are being dwarfed by the existing and about to be built capacity. Of interest I think is all the current planned capacity is not yet even close to replacing the every year current use of hydrogen. With cost parity to Steam Methane reforming Hydrogen production future uses of Hydrogen are oddly irrelevant to the demand.

Being greedy I just want it for my Hydrogen Disco

A BEV trip to Wang for a little run for this Black duck. A hydrogen tank alternating as my high capacity Diving Cylinder (2 perhaps) and Whole Building UPS portable hydrogen fuel cell is still on my wish list. Looking at a Hydrogen BBQ now

It begins??? a FEW BILLION$$$$$$ more beside this one over the last week



The three eastern seaboard states have made a start on a project to build a “renewable hydrogen” highway, with the state governments of Queensland, New South Wales, and Victoria signing an agreement to develop hydrogen refueling infrastructure for heavy trucking. Qld, NSW, Vic reach interstate hydrogen highway agreement

http://nuGen™ mining truck a smart step for Anglo American & giant leap for South Africa’s hydrogen economy

290 tonne and first of many. ROI is working quickly with fuel cost in remote areas biting a lot more that the $2 ish about here US= "Diesel fuel prices keep breaking records this week but no one is celebrating.
On May 6, the average cost for a gallon of diesel fuel in America is $5.51. In many locations, it’s considerably higher than that.
And the price keeps going up, based on an analysis of data from AAA. The day prior, the cost for a gallon of diesel fuel was $5.47. And a week ago, it was $5.18. A month ago, the cost was $5.07." ($USd)

"Freight industry to be hit hard by huge diesel price increase" is South African news Remote diesel price gets hit both ways

Back to hydrogen specific "Anglo American’s innovation-led approach to sustainable mining – which brings together technology and digitalisation to drive sustainability outcomes, “including our commitment to carbon-neutrality across our operations by 2040.” And the trucks are appropriately being launched at a platinum mine – each utilises 4 oz of platinum in their fuel cells – with each truck using eight Ballard FCveloCity^®-HD 100 kW modules."

The Ballard Canadian fuel cells are next gen from a highly experienced long term fuel cell maker ( YEP I own some )
NOT INVESTMENT ADVICE- I am good at loosing money

Who pays $2 a litre? Mine sites are around $0.80

Originally Posted by Tombie

Who pays $2 a litre? Mine sites are around $0.80

fuel rebates from gov are nice Tombie. ATO guide to it

If Hydrogen was given just a level playing field it would be even quicker than it will be Not minding as Hydrogen is not going to cost $2kg per kilo soon and 1 kg of hydrogen is about 1 gallon (6.2 pounds, 2.8 kilograms) of gasoline

One will make us a motza soon mate. Other is funded by taxpayers or non taxpayers

Kubota to roll out first fuel cell tractor in 2025, eyeing U.S. and Europe -
Nikkei Asia

OSAKA -- Kubota aims to bring the world's first hydrogen-powered fuel cell tractor to market as early as 2025, Nikkei has learned, as the Japanese manufacturer eyes growing Western demand for zero-emissions machinery.
The Osaka-based company is developing medium to large fuel cell tractors ranging from 50 to 100 horsepower. They are expected to be priced around 40% higher than leading diesel-powered alternatives, though details have yet to be determined.
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Tractors and similar equipment tend to be used in a specific location, so hydrogen could be delivered in tanks directly to their operators instead of through an extensive network of hydrogen fueling stations. This, in turn, could allow fuel cells to catch on in farming equipment ahead of other types of vehicles.

Hyundai hydrogen-fueled trucks making inroads in Europe -
Nikkei Asia


Gebrueder Weiss has been operating its Xcient since January 2021 in Switzerland, the country Hyundai chose as its launchpad into Europe. In the coming months, Hyundai will expand into neighboring Germany and Austria, along with Denmark, where partners H2 Energy, based in Zurich, Singapore's Trafigura and Phillips 66 of the U.S. are investing 300 million euros ($331 million) to create a corridor of 260 hydrogen fueling stations. H2 Energy played a key role in the development of the Xcient.
Meanwhile, the fuel cell trucks of rivals, such as Daimler and MAN, are still in the prototype stage. Hyundai, by contrast, already has 47 Xcients carrying loads for 25 customers in Switzerland.

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"In its first year of service, our hydrogen truck made 70,000 km without any issues, despite Switzerland's mountainous terrain constituting a real challenge for the reliability of trucks," Juergen Bauer, a member of Gebrueder Weiss' board, told Nikkei Asia.
"Unlike battery-powered electric trucks, our Hyundai's range is virtually unaffected by the driver's use of heating or air conditioning. And once a sufficiently large network of hydrogen refueling stations is realized along European highways, the hydrogen truck will be able to run practically unlimited distances, thanks to short refueling times," Bauer said.