Thread: EV general discussion

Lucid Motors beats Tesla in range, going 520 miles on a charge, the E.P.A. says.

520 miles is Melbourne to Sydney! Thats is a bit of a up yours to a Certain EV man who doesn't like Divers

I really dont think that range is the real issue for current EVs - 400km to 500km while not ideal is OK. The issue is how long it takes to recharge and how do you recharge at home. The later is probably OK in the suburbs if you pay for a high rate charger but for people in the inner city areas who dont have garages and have to park on the road this is a major issue.

When public quick charging infrastructure is provided that can fully charge a car in 5 minutes then Evs will be a viable option for a single car family. At the moment if you can charge at home or at work than EVs make a great second car for commuting but for anything else you need a second ICE vehicle for longer distance travel.

Agree.
I read last year in Norway a survey was done on EV owners and it was found that 70% of EV owners retained an ICE vehicle, even with the enormous subsidies given for EV ownership.
There was also a survey in the USA where it was found that an EV was typically the fifth vehicle in a family.
This indicates to me that there will be a market for ICE vehicles long into the future.
Regards PhilipA

Originally Posted by NavyDiver

80 Litres of fuel $120

Not doing that for months now has made me forget the hand in pocket event an almost dry tank gives me. For a crook comp cost comparison 42 kwh of power did not cost $13.44 as despite the rain and cloud about 30% was solar. I must be becoming a tight arse

That 80 litres would get my 101 around 350KM - which is why I had to make a 160 litre tank for it - I now get ‘normal’ km per tank as everyone else.

I also don’t look at the price of fuel when filling up or keep receipts…

My servo down the road had diesel at $1.55 ltr when I last filled up(10 days ago). By the end of the week it had gone up to $1.57.
Friday it had gone up to $1.59. Our US to AUS dollar has gone down by .2c during the last couple of weeks, so the price of fuel
has gone up.
Wonder if the dollar will keep going down?

Originally Posted by PhilipA

Agree.
I read last year in Norway a survey was done on EV owners and it was found that 70% of EV owners retained an ICE vehicle, even with the enormous subsidies given for EV ownership.
There was also a survey in the USA where it was found that an EV was typically the fifth vehicle in a family.
This indicates to me that there will be a market for ICE vehicles long into the future.
Regards PhilipA

Very tempted by the Rivian - Cannot get it here yet. If I could suspect my D3's days with my are numbered. D3 which is now only a tow tug. The mg is going to the kids in 2-3 years time when I will have a FCEV or EV D3 capable option.

I am an optimist of course. I may need to be as I love fishing and Diving and am seeing and reading of issues that require people to step up and make choices as soon as they can.
Canada is flying in 40 tonnes of fish to stop people starving was one bit of news that made me go WOW Tropical fish eating kelp beds. Massive out breaks of Diadema antillarum (sea urchins) in southern waters, Abalone seeming to disappear in front of me in places that had thousands just recently. I might be sensitive of course.

Alaska's Indigenous tribes 'livid', turn to hunting as salmon stocks dwindle on Yukon River
Alaska'''s Indigenous tribes '''livid''', turn to hunting as salmon stocks dwindle on Yukon River - ABC News

Mate I think you are getting a bit excited about something minor as far as emissions are concerned.

According to the US EPA site , total transportation emissions amount to 14% of total emissions.

That includes passenger vehicles , trucks , public Transport, railways, ships , and whatever else uses fuel to move..

So what would passenger cars share be? maybe 30% or less?.

So if we halve passenger car emissions it will mean a say 2% reduction in World CO2 emissions.

BIG DEAL, with ultimately no measurable or discernable effect on climate yet enormous effects on consumers .
Be careful what you wish for.
Regards PhilipA

Too lazy to google but I do recall reading years ago that volcanoes erupting and other gaseous earth leaks are a huge source of emissions and a few days of volcanic activity is equivalent to a few years of man made crap.

Just dredging up from old memory cells.

But while vehicles may not be as big a total contributor when put in world context, I look forward to the day when those cities who were blessed to see a clear sky and far away mountains under lockdown can see the same again with roads full of non smog creating cars.