Thread: EV general discussion

Originally Posted by vnx205

Do you think there might come a time when battery packs could be swapped in a matter of minutes; probably in less time than it takes to refill the tank with diesel?
It wouldn't be a cheap option, but maybe it will come one day.

Can’t see it but who knows. Given top end headers have 700HP engines running heavy duty cycles I can’t see how you’d keep batteries up to them. At the moment you fill the tank each morning before you start with 1,500 litres of diesel which keeps it going for those 24 hours.

Battery packs would be enormous, very difficult to charge when you have the plant 100KM plus from the farm harvesting the back paddocks, etc - I know some farmers who travel their gear 6 hours one way to reach paddocks they own or lease. It would require enormous infrastructure at the farm to charge them and you’d have someone carting them backwards and forwards on a full time basis. That’s just for one unit - now think about the logistics of a large farm running say 3 to 4 headers, 2 grain carts with large tractors and a small fleet of trucks.

We can’t even make cars viable at the moment - farming is a bridge too far to think about at the moment IMO.

A glimpse of the EV future? Merc EQS EV - voted 'Worst in Show' by iFixit.




Video link below, view from ~4:30 for commentary

Several new EV's out one got my attention. A NEW Mazda mx30ev. With just miserly 220 km range? City car only???

Honestly a bit surprised as it is about $70k same as a well known yank version which goes twice the range. Cannot see that working in a sales sense.

Tow tug run back to work now. I just might load up a toy and come back late

Originally Posted by NavyDiver

With just miserly 220 km range? City car only???

All EVs are still just city cars.

Originally Posted by 101RRS

All EVs are still just city cars.

Yep- Fords is getting close as a are few yet charging here in OZ is still PITA.

"Arriving hard on the heels of news that Ford plans to double F-150 Lightning annual production to 150,000 units, the Blue Oval is ready to let anyone configure their dream electric pickup truck. The EV's configurator launched on Wednesday with full pricing and options to give us the most accurate look yet at how much it will cost to buy one of Ford's potentially game-changing pickups.The good news is that promised sub-$40,000 price is still there, though only before a mandatory $1,695 destination fee. So, really, the cheapest F-150 Lightning costs $41,669 before options. This Pro model comes with a standard battery, which Ford estimates will do 230 miles on a charge. The same battery is standard on every F-150 Lightning, save for the range-topping Platinum model.
Prices for the better equipped XLT trim start at $54,669 and jump to $74,169 if you select the extended range battery. The larger battery pack should do 300 miles on a charge, Ford estimates, and is a $10,000 option. Moving right along, the Lariat trim rings in at $69,169, or $79,169 with the longer-range battery. On top of these trims is the Platinum, which costs $92,569 before any other options. If you're curious, the truck can top $97,000 with all the gear Ford offers.

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Yank pricing of course. Not likely to see them here for donkey years

Two head to head in the states in stats are almost interesting
It is odd to claim 4wd cred with stupid tyres EV or not
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https://www.torquenews.com/15524/for...battle-numbers

So starting at $100K here when they eventually arrive.

Originally Posted by Homestar

So starting at $100K here when they eventually arrive.

And the rest - a standard Ford F150 starts at around $150K (as best I can determine) at the moment so the EV version will be a lot more.

Originally Posted by 101RRS

And the rest - a standard Ford F150 starts at around $150K (as best I can determine) at the moment so the EV version will be a lot more.

Oddly moving a right hand drive to LHD in EVs might be a lot easier as not a lot of anything thats not fly by wire A US model or two just may get here at the US pricing? "Shipping Your Car to Australia? Car Shipping to Australia from the USA starts at a cost of $1,195 USD with an estimated turnaround time of 28 – 50 days, depending on the make and model of the vehicle and whether the origin in the USA is on the east or west coast." Assuming we will get ripped off as usual that (estimate only) shipping cost and the laws allowing a personal import of models not available here could be an option for some?



On another more important topic- Who pays? I think I should not tax payers. This news is good as if it is profitable business will provide charging as a service and users can pay.
"BP: Fast Chargers Become Almost As Profitable As Fuel

Pumps

The company notes strong and rising demand for fast charging.

BP's head of customers and products Emma Delaney told Reuters that strong and growing demand (including a 45% increase in Q3 2021 vs Q2 2021) has brought profit margins of fast chargers close to fuel pumps.

"If I think about a tank of fuel versus a fast charge, we are nearing a place where the business fundamentals on the fast charge are better than they are on the fuel,"

" link

That seem brighter than us all paying for the chargers via taxation like we do in several ways for our current fuel subsidies?