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    Quote Originally Posted by vnx205 View Post
    My take on this is that you are making the mistake of thinking of the hybrid as an electric vehicle, so you are placing too much emphasis on the issue of the inefficiencies involved in converting energy.

    My experience is with the Toyota Camry AVV50R hybrid, so some of my comments may not apply to other brands.

    Even on the highway, the hybrid Camry has an advantage over similar non-hybrid vehicles. It uses an Atkinson Cycle engine rather than an Otto Cycle. I believe an Atkinson Cycle engine can be up to 30% more efficient.

    The Atkinson ICE has a disadvantage; that is less torque at low revs. However, the electric power largely created by regenerative braking more than makes up for the reduced torque.

    So around town, the Camry hybrid has all the advantages offered by regen braking. On the highway it has the advantage of a more fuel efficient engine without sacrificing any performance because of the electric power available.

    EDIT: Toyota claim 5.4 l/100km for non hybrid Camry highway cycle and 4.5l/100km for hybrid. I assume that the degree of optimism is similar for both figures. So the Hybrid is a bit more efficient on the highway and much more efficient in the city.
    One of my brothers has one,he lives in Darwin.It consistently gets around 5l/100,slightly less than his Prado

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    Land Rover now makes PHEVs .( Plug in Hybrid Electric Vehicle)

    They can be plugged in and go for 27Km on battery on a charge.

    You have the option of using petrol only, combination, or electric only. They have a 2 litre petrol engine and electric motor and are FAST when both motors used AFAIR 5.5Seconds 0-60.
    So for the shops or city centre it costs nothing except the home power used.
    On a long trip in the LRO test it did about 29MPG, for a trip to his office 30Km away, 101MPG.
    Only problem is that they cost GBP 70K or I suppose AUD 150K by the time they get here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyDiver View Post
    A farmer with a Tractor let everyone park for free in his paddock to see a river race in WA years back. He charged $50 to drag all the bogged cars out- I assume he made thousands ( Avon Decent ) He did ask me to stop pulling people out for free LADA at the time

    Bet there will be a market for your services. Just park near a broken remote charge point perhaps

    Good thinking 99. What if each EV towed an operating Gennie behind, wouldn't that save down time or might that be defeating the purpose a bit?

    Short extension lead as well.









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    Quote Originally Posted by scarry View Post
    Maybe they need to harness lightning,it happily travels well over 500Km

    On a UK LR Forum a few years back I read where a bloke had difficulty charging his vehicle from an indoor GPO 'cos folk kept tripping over his lead from the house across the footpath..


    Someone back then (a few years ago) tongue in cheek suggested it'd be good idea if it could be done wirelessly


    Lo & behold, not long after, someone came up with that idea & I see now where you you can buy the gear to do that.


    Wireless Charging Electric Vehicles: Is it Possible to Charge Electric Cars Wirelessly? | CarsGuide
    Who could have seriously foreseen that happening?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4bee View Post
    Good thinking 99. What if each EV towed an operating Gennie behind, wouldn't that save down time or might that be defeating the purpose a bit?

    Short extension lead as well.




    TiC.
    That's a Hybrid Des. A solar panel or ten might NOT be that hard to add to your trailer. For half a sec I thought you meant a Genie Suspect If I had one of those a magic carpet would also be supplied

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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyDiver View Post
    That's a Hybrid Des. A solar panel or ten might NOT be that hard to add to your trailer. For half a sec I thought you meant a Genie Suspect If I had one of those a magic carpet would also be supplied


    Yes, that would always be required for getting under & changing the oil & misc repairs while on the move, you see they also fly & could keep up a reasonable speed while you were under doing the chores.


    You'd just need to watch out you didn't bash the back of your head on kerbing or those bloody speed humps, but other than that they would be most useful. I read somewhere recently the later jobs have Sensors so that would rule out bashing one's head as the carpet rises & falls to suit the topography as does the vehicle. So that might be a goer. Terrain following RADAR would be used here.

    Being Magic, they obviously would be self-cleaning & I think they are designed to go Super Sonic so the **** would just fall out at about 800mph/1225km/h or Mach 1.

    Oh yes, the later versions can go Hyper-sonic if the carpet is really really dirty.


    Job done.

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    [QUOTE=scarry;3135237]Maybe they need to harness lightning,it happily travels well over 500K



    Just thinking about my suggestion. It'd be a bastard if one was interstate & plugged in there, & noticed no charging going on. You'd have to walk all the way (750 km) back to the charging station in Adelaide to find some ***** had pulled your plug out of your 800km lead & buggered off for a coffee. So you pull out his/hers then have to walk all the back to Melbourne (750km) again to check your EAV was charging ok.


    Jesus what a bloody carry on!





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    This Youtube video deals with a bloke in UK driving his MGto wales and back.
    It's a good example of the good and bad of EV ownership .
    Maybe the MG owner can tell us whether the same situation applies in OZ. I am referring to the difficulty of different companies, not the Tesla sitting at the charger which is self explanatory.
    MG ZS EV Review! Cold weather range test GONE WRONG! - YouTube
    Regards PhilipA

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    An Australian transport company Janus trucks look like doing electric conversions...Janus Electric

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    AFAIR this was featured on TV as a likely project for Sydney to Brisbane transports.

    However by their blurb, it appears they are looking for capital to make it a reality.

    It will be interesting to see whether they can raise the capital to be able to establish the necessary battery swap stations, recalling that Tesla also planned to introduce these several years ago but never made it reality.
    Tesla planned a similar idea with automated battery replacement at dedicated centres .
    Regards PhilipA

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