Thread: EV general discussion

Originally Posted by PhilipA

This is a good analysis by Robert Pepper on why EVs will have to be improved significantly/enormously to be able to tow a van for long distances.

Can an EV work as a 4x4 tourer or long distance tower? Will it ruin the weekend? - YouTube

Regards PhilipA

Unfortunately,ATM they are also basically useless for any Tradie,that is the ones that use utes,vans,etc.
And the many that drag trailers around.

Originally Posted by JDNSW

Not just Tesla, and not just EVs. There is a serious shortage of most new cars at present, resulting in long delivery times - and strong demand for used cars - with prices of both new and s/h going up.

BYD is the new cheap EV in oz OR NOT. 400,000 on back order and the few bound for OZ have all been sold a nasty rumor has it . Ditto for Kia Ev6 and a Nissan.. both of who have a interesting 800w charging bit which would smash recharging time.

You cannot have one. I tried buying one

Originally Posted by NavyDiver

BYD is the new cheap EV in oz OR NOT. 400,000 on back order and the few bound for OZ have all been sold a nasty rumor has it . Ditto for Kia Ev6 and a Nissan.. both of who have a interesting 800w charging bit which would smash recharging time.

You cannot have one. I tried buying one

You may have to step it up and order the Polestar2, geee thats a nice looking EV.
I'm going to hit the boss up to see if I can salary sacrifice one, I'm sure he will say yes since his company is a Solar specialist business

Originally Posted by Vern

You may have to step it up and order the Polestar2, geee thats a nice looking EV.
I'm going to hit the boss up to see if I can salary sacrifice one, I'm sure he will say yes since his company is a Solar specialist business

Admit I am tempted to take on for a Drive. The Volvo link and more look great. I am not after a high end car sadly perhaps. Tempted to take a holiday to see about a 4wd option to import IF the share market keeps being as kind to me as it has been over the last few years.

Offer the Boss Advertising rights for the the solar business via vinyl wrapping "your" Polestar2
It may just make it a certain win win for both of you with the current fuel prices

"PARIS (Reuters) - Sales of new electrified vehicles in France overtook petrol-powered equivalents for the first time in the first quarter, a major milestone for lower-emission vehicles amid high prices at petrol pumps and government subsidies for electrified models."

Not suggesting Australia should have more subsidies! Simply removing the Billions of Government subsidies for Coal, Gas and similar would make it a fair playing field


I may have been wrong about the log jam at BYD??? An artical today sugested delivery in August. What it did not of course say if that is for existing prior orders or for new ones? Suspect it is for those with existing orders

The French news went on to say "Encouraged by subsidies, looming bans on fossil-fuel models and high petrol prices, electrified models have become mainstream in a very short space of time.
The top-selling electric car in France in March was Tesla's mass-market Model 3, followed by the Dacia Spring from Renault and the Peugeot 208 from Stellantis."
Supply chain issues are not quickly fixed. Chips impact on ICE and EV of course.

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Sadly not Salt and Vinegar'
I did not buy TSMC (Taiwan Semiconductors) Shame perhaps! Saw those huge factories year ago - The are wow in size and output. The orders for other chips- Chicken! Just kidding is the issue.
EU and America all trying to win as an option as is China of course.

European Commission (EC), which in February announced a Chips Act. The EC will plough 43bn euros (£36bn) of public and private investment into Europe's semiconductor industry. The Commission hopes to, among other things, increase the region's share of global chip manufacturing - from less than 10% to 20%.




Life used to be so simple- Holden or a Ford?

Originally Posted by NavyDiver

"PARIS (Reuters) - Sales of new electrified vehicles in France overtook petrol-powered equivalents for the first time in the first quarter, a major milestone for lower-emission vehicles amid high prices at petrol pumps and government subsidies for electrified models."

Not suggesting Australia should have more subsidies! Simply removing the Billions of Government subsidies for Coal, Gas and similar would make it a fair playing field


I may have been wrong about the log jam at BYD??? An artical today sugested delivery in August. What it did not of course say if that is for existing prior orders or for new ones? Suspect it is for those with existing orders

The French news went on to say "Encouraged by subsidies, looming bans on fossil-fuel models and high petrol prices, electrified models have become mainstream in a very short space of time.
The top-selling electric car in France in March was Tesla's mass-market Model 3, followed by the Dacia Spring from Renault and the Peugeot 208 from Stellantis."
Supply chain issues are not quickly fixed. Chips impact on ICE and EV of course.

11305887825950.jpg
Sadly not Salt and Vinegar'
I did not buy TSMC (Taiwan Semiconductors) Shame perhaps! Saw those huge factories year ago - The are wow in size and output. The orders for other chips- Chicken! Just kidding is the issue.
EU and America all trying to win as an option as is China of course.

European Commission (EC), which in February announced a Chips Act. The EC will plough 43bn euros (£36bn) of public and private investment into Europe's semiconductor industry. The Commission hopes to, among other things, increase the region's share of global chip manufacturing - from less than 10% to 20%.




Life used to be so simple- Holden or a Ford?

Now, if the Frogs could only do summat about the Horns. Maybe use a quite one for instance?

Not suggesting Australia should have more subsidies! Simply removing the Billions of Government subsidies for Coal, Gas and similar would make it a fair playing field

You mean the coal and gas that taxes on are currently supporting the Australian economy along with the terrible Iron Ore?

I wish that critics of resources would get real and not quote the bull**** greeny stuff that quotes "social costs" as subsidies and count all the non existent Notional deaths from pollution in Australia.

If I die from pollution it will be from the bloody wood smoke from my neighbours' heaters and of course wood is great because it is "renewable" in about 50 years.
Regards PhilipA

Originally Posted by PhilipA

You mean the coal and gas that taxes on are currently supporting the Australian economy along with the terrible Iron Ore?

I wish that critics of resources would get real and not quote the bull**** greeny stuff that quotes "social costs" as subsidies and count all the non existent Notional deaths from pollution in Australia.

If I die from pollution it will be from the bloody wood smoke from my neighbours' heaters and of course wood is great because it is "renewable" in about 50 years.
Regards PhilipA

No Philip I mean the many millions of direct and indirect taxpayer support given to several sectors very quietly. I appreciate the benefit exports provide Australia. They are needed as well for the changes with Iron, Cooper, Nickle, Lithium rare earths and ... all required and most of which will be mined in a more sustainable way soon any way.

New exports for example are already set to replace the very dirty black molecule focus some people love dearly. Old topic you can see if you look? Fact check: Does the government subsidise Australia’s fossil fuel industry?
A little old quote " 2019 International Monetary Fund (working paper which found fossil fuels in Australia received US$29 billion in subsidies in 2015."

On a much brighter note 50 billion invested sound great to me
"Australia iron ore billionaire Andrew Forrest has struck a potential $50 billion green hydrogen agreement with German energy giant E.ON to produce up to five million tonnes of green hydrogen by 2030.The landmark agreement could deliver one third of Forrest’s hugely ambitious plans to produce 15 million tonnes of green hydrogen by 2030, a target the head of his own green energy company Fortescue Future Industries Julie Shuttleworth thought was “very, very stretch”, but now says is quite achievable.“We cannot keep gambling our energy security and the planet’s future on fossil fuels,” Shuttleworth said in a statement on Tuesday. “Green hydrogen is the practical, implementable solution to decarbonise and lower emissions.”
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