EV general discussion

"Nationals MP Keith Pitt says Chris Bowen’s EV plans for Australia are “not reality”.
Mr Pitt told Sky News Australia that there are reports of EVs being “valueless” when going to trade them in."

Not suggesting MP K Pitt is wrong. My trading $32 k after 50,000+ km on my MG XS was ok in my thoughts.

Saw a beautiful 2011 Jaguar. Cost $220,000 hand build and it was very very nice. A 5K trading offer for it was refused.

The new owner said its one and oil burner and used 7 litres per 100 km on its trips from Brisbane to the Western Districts of Vic.


That level of depreciation would hurt normal people. The prior owner is apparently a known speedster who may do it is a nice WRX in flight mode at times now and may be in his 80s [biggrin]

Look on Carsales. There were several 2019 Teslas Model 3s from 36K a couple of days ago. All strangely were private sales and some had several extras and most moderate miles.
My first thought is that dealers will not touch.
Regards PhilipA

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Look on Carsales. There were several 2019 Teslas Model 3s from 36K a couple of days ago. All strangely were private sales and some had several extras and most moderate miles.
My first thought is that dealers will not touch.
Regards PhilipA

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How weird - people trying to sell their cars privately on Car Sales. Clearly something wrong with them. 🤪

In the UK EV sales have slowed and lots of previous models still in yards.

Higher end EVs aren’t getting anywhere near enough.

Normally by end of lease a vehicle can fetch decent money to move onto the next lease. In reality they are getting less than the payout figure for the lease.


As mentioned multiple times by a few - EV has its place.
It is NOT the complete solution and unlikely to ever be in a sensible world. However, the odds of this world being sensible under the current global political Muppets and the Greenwashing that is currently endemic means it’s anyone’s guess what the transport solution is going to really be.

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As mentioned multiple times by a few - EV has its place.
It is NOT the complete solution and unlikely to ever be in a sensible world. However, the odds of this world being sensible under the current global political Muppets and the Greenwashing that is currently endemic means it’s anyone’s guess what the transport solution is going to really be.

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I think the truth is the world has hit an unsustainable population level on many fronts now, and attempts to course correct are 20-30 years too late. All they are really going to achieve is to slow down the inevitable.

As consumers, all we can do is enjoy what we can whilst we can.

As you say, no one truly knows what the solution will be (or wants to admit what it will really take to make a difference). Gee some don’t even want to acknowledge there is a problem that needs a solution.

Meanwhile, I do like the technology changes we are seeing. But yet to find the perfect replacement for the D3/D4 - so will do my bit by keeping the D3 on the road. An EV (or PHEV) with V2L capability would be a nice third car to support my own unsustainable living.

Agree….

I do disagree there is a problem that needs a solution (sarcasm)…

If the human species wants to remain the dominant on the planet there may well be an issue, however there’s nothing to say it will be, or should be… [emoji56]

If society keeps going the way it is, the problem will solve itself and the planet will keep going right up until good old Sol goes nova. Then it will all be forgotten [emoji12]

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How weird - people trying to sell their cars privately on Car Sales. Clearly something wrong with them.

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No they were probably offered less than the advertised price by a dealer or no dealer would buy them.

Regards PhilipA

This is interesting. "WATCH: Ford Lightning, Rivian R1T, And Tesla Cybertruck Battle On Same Off-Road Climb

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The tesla is very ugly![biggrin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeazDyOH7O4

With the all out push by the current US administration, I'd expect different stats.

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[Source: EV Ownership Ticks Up, but Fewer Nonowners Want to Buy One ]

UK EV prices and range in cold weather.

Lexus is a shocker given the Price and its claim to be premium[bighmmm] Both the Lexus in the test were more than 30% under there WTLP range suggested.

My MG4 is a bit under the higher specked one used in this test. This one was about 29% under its WTLP range. I loved the guy suggesting the BMW I5 which missed its WTLP by 25% was close[bigrolf][bigrolf][bigrolf]

VW two cars with almost identical specs except one had a Heat Pump option at 1000pounds!!! The suggested pay back time being 80,000 km for that option will not be a huge selling item for VW[bigrolf]

Still waiting for my tow tug[bawl]


https://youtu.be/c10Ck84QgEI'si=t4iVZAwQkQaunxKn