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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    Problem then becomes Road mass....
    These EVs are so damn heavy the roads will be subject to more wear.

    This isn’t going to be as simple as it appears at face value.
    They are also very hard on tyres, which is another issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scarry View Post
    They are also very hard on tyres, which is another issue.
    because of weight or something else?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eevo View Post
    because of weight or something else?
    Weight,front wheel drive and steer,with heaps of torque and speed off the mark,I think is the issue.

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    EV general discussion

    If they’re so heavy they create extra wear on the roads then it sounds like they should be registered as a truck - will notify Vicroads... 🤣
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    Quote Originally Posted by Homestar View Post
    If they’re so heavy they create extra wear on the roads then it sounds like they should be registered as a truck - will notify Vicroads... EV general discussion
    By comparison they are significantly heavier.
    Each single unit isn’t too bad, combined it all adds up.

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    I seem to remember reading that since the amount of damage goes up roughly as the square of the mass, almost all wear on most roads is not from anything you can legally drive on a car licence, and not even much from MR vehicles. So I doubt road damage is a serious problem. But I don't know about tyre wear, although tyre size, suspension and steering geometry, maintenance (tyre pressures) and driving habits would almost certainly have more effect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Homestar View Post
    If they’re so heavy they create extra wear on the roads then it sounds like they should be registered as a truck - will notify Vicroads... 🤣
    And pay commercial vehicle Tolls🙈🤣

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    Hi All,

    Some interesting reading here...

    Head of Toyota slams rush to EVs

    "The more EVs we build, the worse carbon dioxide gets…When politicians are out there saying, ‘Let’s get rid of all cars using gasoline,’ do they understand this?” said Toyota CEO Akio Toyoda in his role as chairman..."

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    He suggested, too, that Japan would run out of electricity in summer months if all cars were EVs, that it would cost upwards of A$500 billion to build sufficient EV infrastructure, and that because Japan’s energy is produced with natural gas and coal, the effect on the environment would still be negative."

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    Underneath, however, it points to a car industry that’s trapped between two fronts; keeping the lights on in the face of declining demand and answering to the increasingly strident calls of governments around the planet to address the issue of climate change."

    Like I said - some interesting reading.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grey_ghost View Post
    Hi All,

    Some interesting reading here...

    Head of Toyota slams rush to EVs

    "The more EVs we build, the worse carbon dioxide gets…When politicians are out there saying, ‘Let’s get rid of all cars using gasoline,’ do they understand this?” said Toyota CEO Akio Toyoda in his role as chairman..."

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    He suggested, too, that Japan would run out of electricity in summer months if all cars were EVs, that it would cost upwards of A$500 billion to build sufficient EV infrastructure, and that because Japan’s energy is produced with natural gas and coal, the effect on the environment would still be negative."

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    Underneath, however, it points to a car industry that’s trapped between two fronts; keeping the lights on in the face of declining demand and answering to the increasingly strident calls of governments around the planet to address the issue of climate change."

    Like I said - some interesting reading.
    Quatumscape backed by bill gates 300million several years ago. I assume he has made hundreds of billions from it.. They are yet to make a Solid state battery!!!
    Microvast about to be another unicorn perhaps? (it might be a dog and I am not an investment advisers back side! 2017 news" Microvast will reach 4 GWh of production capacity by the end of 2017 and is expanding its manufacturing facility to provide 11 GWh of additional capacity. To date, the company has supplied more than 18,000 hybrid and fully electric buses with battery systems, operating in more than 150 cities across six countries with over one billion miles traveled."

    Toyota is releasing Hydrogen and EV at the oympics if they go ahead and has build a billion$ ev specific plant in Japan. Fully agree with removing carbon from Electricity Generation. This morning I heard of the massive increase in people buying roof top Solar PV here in Vic. My thoughts is many of us will self charge not grid charge anyway.
    In March Toyota "BEIJING – Toyota Motor Corp. plans to build an electric vehicle plant in Tianjin, China, according to a document from local authorities.
    Tianjin FAW Toyota Motor Co., the automaker’s local joint venture, plans to spend 8.5 billion yuan (¥131 billion) to build a plant with an annual production capacity of 200,000 units in the city’s Binhai New Area, according to the document.

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    A significant number of major advances made by man in the last 300 years have often been reviewed later only to find significant flaws in the logic.

    One may wonder if in 50-100 years we will look at our current trajectory and feel the same.

    Our latest plans still are intent on extracting and processing enormous quantities of non renewable minerals to create systems we are heralding as sustainable. All the while covering the landscape with significant areas of hardware.

    Time will judge it’s success.

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