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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    In some countries the emissions regulations reward companies which market low emissions vehicles and penalise companies for vehicles with dirty exhausts. Ours don't. So naturally companies send their clean vehicles to those markets.
    Everyone still pays though. The rewards come from somewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    In some countries the emissions regulations reward companies which market low emissions vehicles and penalise companies for vehicles with dirty exhausts. Ours don't. So naturally companies send their clean vehicles to those markets.
    NZ has just started a system,not much thought has gone into it,many are complaining and rightly so.

    Hopefully if some kind of system does appear here it will be well thought out,and sensible,not something to make them pretend to look like they are doing the right thing,and a knee jerk reaction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    Everyone still pays though. The rewards come from somewhere.
    Exactly,and many of the European countries that are subsidising EV’s in one way or another have said this is only a temporary arrangement.

    Some countries have already stopped.

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    An update on the 4X4 EV's being developed for the mining industry. Wouldn't take much to adapt them for use outside mining.

    Tembo 4x4 and Voltra battery electric LandCruisers (outbacktravelaustralia.com.au)
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    Quote Originally Posted by scarry View Post
    Exactly,and many of the European countries that are subsidising EV’s in one way or another have said this is only a temporary arrangement.

    Some countries have already stopped.
    Subsidising EV's is primarily to get the numbers to a point where the price comes down, and the public buys into the concept. When the infrastructure is built to support them , they will then be the mainstream mode of transport. They are the way of the future, and those countries investing in EV manufacture and export will be leading the way to a new economy. It's not too late to get on board .
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    [QUOTE=bob10;3092991]Subsidising EV's is primarily to get the numbers to a point where the price comes down,/QUOTE]

    It wouldnt be a political stunt by some,not saying all?

    No, that would never happen,anyway,time to move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    Everyone still pays though. The rewards come from somewhere.
    Correct. And so it should be , Of course the The people using non renewable should also contribute to a sustainable future . FFS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goingbush View Post
    Correct. And so it should be , Of course the The people using non renewable should also contribute to a sustainable future . FFS.
    Should it?

    So far none of this has demonstrated it is sustainable. People on the financial edge will be taxed into oblivion to cover it, and those who can afford it will go blissfully on in ignorance.

    A sustainable future doesn’t involve ripping more and more elements out of the ground to feed the thirst of ever increasing population.

    Nor does it work if the average citizen can no longer afford the basics due to increased costs of literally everything to fund a quest towards lower per capita emissions whilst exponentially increasing populations.

    This one eyed approach is more ****ed than Linda Lovelace. EV general discussion

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    Should it?

    So far none of this has demonstrated it is sustainable. People on the financial edge will be taxed into oblivion to cover it, and those who can afford it will go blissfully on in ignorance.

    A sustainable future doesn’t involve ripping more and more elements out of the ground to feed the thirst of ever increasing population.

    Nor does it work if the average citizen can no longer afford the basics due to increased costs of literally everything to fund a quest towards lower per capita emissions whilst exponentially increasing populations.

    This one eyed approach is more ****ed than Linda Lovelace. EV general discussion
    what a short sighted attitude you have, basically its a case of Adapt or Die .

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    Quote Originally Posted by goingbush View Post
    what a short sighted attitude you have, basically its a case of Adapt or Die .
    But adapt to what is still a question yet to be answered. I think EV’s are a reasonable stop gap but not the overall solution - well, not new EV’s anyway - your converted Lightweight ticks a lot more boxes as far less resources were used to get it on the road than any new EV and you run it as environmentally responsible as is possible with solar and batteries, but not everyone can do this (although how good would it be if we had a world full of repurposed Land Rover EV’s) EV general discussionEV general discussionEV general discussion
    If you need to contact me please email homestarrunnerau@gmail.com - thanks - Gav.

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