Thread: EV general discussion

Also interesting to see Rex Airline trialling electric engines supported by hydrogen in its Saab 34 seat aircraft for short routes of up to an hour.
Rex says operating costs would be halved, tickets could be cheaper and marginal routes could become more viable.
Lots of stories around about this. Just Google it.

Important issue is what happens with EV owners who live in apartments, who total more than 2 million in Oz and are often poorer than those who can afford houses.

I read recently that an electrician did an analysis of the Melbourne Docklands development as he had been asked to test the viability of EV charging points.
He found that the electrical supply was totally inadequate and that not only that the whole electrical infrastructure of that part of Melbourne would have to be upgraded at mind boggling cost.
It's not only the building that has to be considered but the whole sub station district.
Regards PhilipA

Mick, I understand what you’re saying regarding get to work sites etc, and then charge up. However, standard charge points only put very limited capacity back - like 10hrs required to top back up.

I also would see it as completely unfair to a person having a project constructed to be expect to foot the “fuel” bill for a dozen tradies.

Now expand that to have each tradie wanting to top his battery off and most sites couldn’t sustain the power feed.

In context here - a tradie can do 300-400km in a day travelling between job sites. Currently not a viable alternative unfortunately.

This is interesting - Aussie Toyota HiLux EV plan confirmed - carsales.com.au

They seem to be on the money with range as well - assuming the empty ute weighs around 3,000Kg with its 88KWH battery, 300KM is about right.

Might zap them an email and see what it would cost to repower my company Hilux - it's due for replacement - and 300KM would do me 99% of the time - the other 1% I can take one of the ICE vehicles we have at work.

I can charge it at work from the 20KW rooftop solar as well, so wouldn't cost me anything at home - and it gets parked on the street so no way to charge it there anyway.

Originally Posted by Homestar

This is interesting - Aussie Toyota HiLux EV plan confirmed - carsales.com.au

They seem to be on the money with range as well - assuming the empty ute weighs around 3,000Kg with its 88KWH battery, 300KM is about right.

Might zap them an email and see what it would cost to repower my company Hilux - it's due for replacement - and 300KM would do me 99% of the time - the other 1% I can take one of the ICE vehicles we have at work.

I can charge it at work from the 20KW rooftop solar as well, so wouldn't cost me anything at home - and it gets parked on the street so no way to charge it there anyway.

300km is a bit light for me. The race to get the EV utes in to Australia looks like going to a Chinese company. 2023/2024 looks realistic for some options. 2025 for Solid state battery or FCEV options which will allow towing and very quick recharge/refueling is my guess.

Originally Posted by Tombie

Mick, I understand what you’re saying regarding get to work sites etc, and then charge up. However, standard charge points only put very limited capacity back - like 10hrs required to top back up.

I also would see it as completely unfair to a person having a project constructed to be expect to foot the “fuel” bill for a dozen tradies.

Now expand that to have each tradie wanting to top his battery off and most sites couldn’t sustain the power feed.

In context here - a tradie can do 300-400km in a day travelling between job sites. Currently not a viable alternative unfortunately.

I would bet the ATO FBT would get involved in employer charging my car at work

Originally Posted by NavyDiver

300km is a bit light for me. The race to get the EV utes in to Australia looks like going to a Chinese company. 2023/2024 looks realistic for some options. 2025 for Solid state battery or FCEV options which will allow towing and very quick recharge/refueling is my guess.

My round trip is 80KM each day and the vehicle sits in a parking bay for 10 hours until I go home. Weekend use is fairly light as we take SWMBO Hybrid longer distances as it's more comfy. The odd towing trip or site inspection to the further reaches of the State would require a different vehicle is all.

Just been working through the price. Based on an 88KWH battery pack, conversion, engineering etc we can't see how the price will be under $60 to $70K for this, so not viable - we'll wait until Toyota release a factory version.